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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><br>folks...<br><br>i have quickly read the Summary (ies) of the proposal section 1-5 and i have got a light on what this is all about....<br><br>it seems the prospective requestor already has IPv4 which can no longer sustain his/her needs........probably this someone does not have any IPv6 space!<br><br>my opinions at this juncture when we are strongly pushing for IPv6 adoption and deployment:<br><br>1. AFRINIC needs to encourage and assist IPv4 and/IPv6 renters to start planning for and deploying IPv6 <br>2. AFRINIC on top of a regular IPv6 course being conducted across AFRICA successfully for some years now to prepare HANDs-ON Training on how to best adopt and deploy IPv6 together with IPv4 (Dual Stack)........ (co-existence migration strategy and practices/show casing)<br>3. AFRINIC or IANA to clearly speak out technical challenges so far experienced in using IPv6, i think it's more than 10 years since AFRINIC/IANA and others started pushing hard for IPv6 adoption and implementation......<br><br>4. in other words a requestor has to prove to AFRINIC preparedness to adopt and implement IPv6. Additional or new IPv4 has to go with IPv6 as already has been the case accompanied with implementation agreement for not more that 1 year, failure should mandate AFRINIC to recall the resources....<br><br>5. i think AFRINIC and the Community have to make sure that AFRICA is not experiencing last minutes and ad-hoc and panics when a time will come that we have no choice than going IPv6, let's not experience what we had during Y2K. <br><br> <br>
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<em><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#1f497d">Arbogast Fabian,</font></em><br>
<em><font face="Comic Sans MS" color="#1f497d">cell:+255-78-447-8387</font></em><br><br><br><div>> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:06:07 +0300<br>> From: cto@renu.ac.ug<br>> To: dogwallah@gmail.com<br>> CC: rpd@afrinic.net<br>> Subject: Re: [rpd] New Proposal - "IPv4 Resources transfer within the AFRINIC Region (AFPUB-2016-V4-003-DRAFT01)"<br>> <br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> I think my question should have been:<br>> <br>> Can a recipient from a source other than AFRINIC be a source in another transfer 12 months later ?<br>> <br>> Kind regards,<br>> <br>> Nicholas Mbonimpa<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "CTO RENU" <cto@renu.ac.ug><br>> To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com><br>> Cc: "rpd" <rpd@afrinic.net><br>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:45:09 PM<br>> Subject: Re: [rpd] New Proposal - "IPv4 Resources transfer within the AFRINIC Region (AFPUB-2016-V4-003-DRAFT01)"<br>> <br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> Some clarity needed on 3.3.3, and "3.2: Conditions on a recipient of the transfer"<br>> <br>> 3.3.3: Source entities must not have received a transfer, allocation, or assignment of IPv4 number resources from AFRINIC for the 12 months prior to the approval of transfer request.<br>> <br>> Should a recipient from a source other than AFRINIC be a source in another transfer 12 months later ?<br>> <br>> Many a time the resources acquired never get used up in the stipulated time period.<br>> <br>> Kind regards,<br>> <br>> Nicholas Mbonimpa<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ----- Original Message -----<br>> From: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com><br>> To: "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com><br>> Cc: "rpd" <rpd@afrinic.net><br>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:16:15 AM<br>> Subject: Re: [rpd] New Proposal - "IPv4 Resources transfer within the AFRINIC Region (AFPUB-2016-V4-003-DRAFT01)"<br>> <br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> I refreshed my memory of it at:<br>> <br>> http://www.afrinic.net/community/policy-development/251-policy-development-process-in-the-afrinic-service-region-afpub-2010-gen-005<br>> <br>> <br>> The draft policy shall be available for review for at least four weeks<br>> before the next Public Policy Meeting. The author(s) shall make the<br>> necessary changes to the draft policy according to the feedback<br>> received. The Working Group Chair(s) may request AfriNIC to provide an<br>> analysis, technical, financial, legal or other, of the impact of the<br>> draft policy.<br>> <br>> If I recall correctly the intent of this clause was to NOT allow last<br>> minute (ok, last month ;-) proposals, so the WG would have some time<br>> to dwell on proposals before a meeting. Perhaps the author(s) of the<br>> PDP can remind of of why we have this clause? I may have<br>> misremembered this as well as the time frame.<br>> <br>> See you in Botswana Bwana!<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Hello McTim,<br>> ><br>> > On item 2, There is a "4 weeks" discussion period requirement so in this<br>> > particular case the policy will not be eligible for consensus considerations<br>> > in Gaborone. However, we intend to place it on our agenda to discuss it (to<br>> > the extent that time permits) in Gaborone.<br>> ><br>> > Regards<br>> > PDWG Co-Chairs<br>> > Sent from my LG G4<br>> > Kindly excuse brevity and typos<br>> ><br>> > On 25 May 2016 19:31, "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> >><br>> >> Hi Sami, All,<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> 2 things:<br>> >><br>> >> 1. I can support this policy, with a few minor tweaks (3.2.2 is redundant<br>> >> and also vague as to what the NIC might require for example).<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> 2. Is this policy proposal eligible for discussion in Gaborone? If I<br>> >> recall correctly there is a policy proposal deadline (6 weeks?) before a<br>> >> face to face meeting.<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Regards,<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> McTim<br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, SamiSalih <sami@ntc.gov.sd> wrote:<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Dear AfriNIC Members,<br>> >>><br>> >>> The PWDG received a new policy Proposal as follow:<br>> >>><br>> >>> Detailed Information<br>> >>><br>> >>> Draft Policy name: IPv4 Resources transfer within the AFRINIC Region<br>> >>> Unique identifier: AFPUB-2016-V4-003-DRAFT01<br>> >>> Status: Under Discussion<br>> >>> Submission Date: May 23, 2016<br>> >>><br>> >>> Authors:<br>> >>> - Ali Hadji, Comores Telecoms<br>> >>> - Komi Elitcha<br>> >>> - Damnam Kanlanfei BAGOLIBE<br>> >>> - Patrick GH, NIC CIS<br>> >>> - Nicholas Mbonimpa, RENU<br>> >>> - Alain P. AINA, WACREN<br>> >>><br>> >>> Url:<br>> >>> http://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1785-ipv4-resources-transfer-within-the-afrinic-region<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Text Below:<br>> >>><br>> >>> 1)Summary of the Problem Being Addressed by this Policy Proposal<br>> >>><br>> >>> Like the other Regional Internet Registries, AFRINIC will soon exhaust<br>> >>> its IPv4 pool. In order to meet the needs of late resource requestors, a<br>> >>> transfer policy for IPv4 resources within the region is needed. The goal of<br>> >>> this policy is to define conditions under which transfers must occur.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 2) Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem<br>> >>><br>> >>> The Policy solves the issue of an African organisation needing IPv4<br>> >>> number resources after the exhaustion of the AFRINIC IPv4 pool or when<br>> >>> AFRINIC can no longer satisfy the needs of such an organization.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3) The Proposal<br>> >>><br>> >>> This policy (IPv4 Soft Landing), applies to the management of address<br>> >>> space that will be available to AfriNIC after the current IPv4 pool is<br>> >>> depleted. The purpose of this document is to ensure that address space is<br>> >>> assigned and/or allocated in a manner that is acceptable to the AfriNIC<br>> >>> community especially during this time of IPv4 exhaustion.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.1) This policy takes effect as from phase 2 of the IPv4 soft landing<br>> >>> policy (AFPUB-2010-v4-005) or its successor.<br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.2) Both the source entity and recipient must be AFRINIC members.<br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.3) Conditions on the source of the transfer:<br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.3.1 The source must be the current rightful holder of the IPv4 address<br>> >>> resources recognised by AFRINIC, and not be involved in any dispute as to<br>> >>> the status of those resources.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.3.2 Source entities will not be eligible to receive any further IPv4<br>> >>> address allocations or assignments from AFRINIC for a period of 12 months<br>> >>> after a transfer approval.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.3.3 Source entities must not have received a transfer, allocation, or<br>> >>> assignment of IPv4 number resources from AFRINIC for the 12 months prior to<br>> >>> the approval of transfer request. This restriction excludes Mergers and<br>> >>> Acquisitions transfers.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.2 Conditions on the recipient of the transfer:<br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.2.1 AFRINIC has to approve the recipients need for the IPv4 number<br>> >>> resources. In order for an organisation to qualify for receiving a transfer,<br>> >>> it must first go through the process of justifying its IPv4 resource needs<br>> >>> before AFRINIC. That is to say, the organisation must justify before AFRINIC<br>> >>> its initial/additional allocation/assignment usage, as applicable, according<br>> >>> to the policies in force.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.2.2 The recipient must be a member of AFRINIC and must meet any other<br>> >>> requirements defined by AFRINIC.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.2.3 The Recipient will be subject to current AFRINIC policies and sign<br>> >>> the RSA for the resources being received.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 3.2.4 Recipients must demonstrate the need for up to a 12-month supply of<br>> >>> IPv4 address space.<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 4.0 Revision History<br>> >>><br>> >>> 24 May 2016: First Draft AFPUB-2016-V4-003-DRAFT01 Posted on RPD list<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> 5.0 References<br>> >>><br>> >>> AFPUB-2010-v4-005:<br>> >>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/697-ipv4-soft-landing-policy<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Discussions are taking place on the policy working group mailing list if<br>> >>> you want to subscribe to the mailing send your subscription request to<br>> >>> rpd-request [at] afrinic.net with 'Subscribe' as subject line<br>> >>><br>> >>> ________________________________<br>> >>><br>> >>> Mailing list archives can be found at<br>> >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> Best Regards,<br>> >>><br>> >>> Seun Ojedeji<br>> >>> Sami Salih<br>> >>> AfriNIC PDWG Co-Chairs<br>> >>><br>> >>><br>> >>> _______________________________________________<br>> >>> RPD mailing list<br>> >>> RPD@afrinic.net<br>> >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd<br>> >>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> --<br>> >> Cheers,<br>> >><br>> >> McTim<br>> >> "A name indicates what we seek. 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