<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I don’t think there’s risk of it becoming irrelevant within 2016. I wish there were, I would love to see IPv4 go the way of the dodo much faster than it is doing so, but alas, I do not expect that it will. I think we will be stuck managing this IPv4 mess for at least another 3-4 years.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 27, 2016, at 09:34 , Honest Ornella GANKPA <<a href="mailto:honest1989@gmail.com" class="">honest1989@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I agree.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However one of the legitimate concerns is if it takes too much time for adoption, it might become somewhat "irrelevant".</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ornella</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">2016-05-27 17:19 GMT+01:00 Owen DeLong <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank" class="">owen@delong.com</a>></span>:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I don’t believe there is anything urgent about this policy being implemented and would not support it as an emergency exemption.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do support running it through the normal process and believe that gaining consensus at the next meeting is perfectly reasonable and quite likely.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div></font></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 27, 2016, at 04:02 , ALAIN AINA <<a href="mailto:aalain@trstech.net" target="_blank" class="">aalain@trstech.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 25, 2016, at 10:21 PM, McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Sami, All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2 things:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. I can support this policy, with a few minor tweaks (<span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">3.2.2 is redundant and also vague as to what the NIC might require for example). </span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class="">Done.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">2. Is this policy proposal eligible for discussion in Gaborone? If I recall correctly there is a policy proposal deadline (6 weeks?) before a face to face meeting.</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>This policy proposal is not eligible for approval (Consensus) discussion in Gaborone, but may benefit from having some discussions if need be.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Section 8 of the PDP has provision for change on the process in case of emergency. We could seek consensus through the mailing within four weeks, approve the policy and present it to the next policy meeting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—Alain</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">Regards,</span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif" class="">McTim</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, SamiSalih <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:sami@ntc.gov.sd" target="_blank" class="">sami@ntc.gov.sd</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div style="font-family:'times new roman','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt" class=""><div class=""><strong class=""><br class=""></strong></div><div style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Dear AfriNIC Members,<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The PWDG received a new policy Proposal as follow:<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
</div><div class="">Detailed Information<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Draft Policy name: IPv4 Resources transfer within the AFRINIC Region<br class="">Unique identifier: AFPUB-2016-V4-003-DRAFT01<br class="">Status: Under Discussion<br class="">Submission Date: May 23, 2016</div><div class=""><br class="">Authors: </div><div class="">- Ali Hadji, Comores Telecoms<br class="">- Komi Elitcha <br class="">- Damnam Kanlanfei BAGOLIBE <br class="">- Patrick GH, NIC CIS <br class="">- Nicholas Mbonimpa, RENU <br class="">- Alain P. AINA, WACREN</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Url: <span class=""><a href="http://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1785-ipv4-resources-transfer-within-the-afrinic-region" target="_blank" class="">http://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1785-ipv4-resources-transfer-within-the-afrinic-region</a></span><br class=""></div><a href="http://afrinic.net/en/library/policies/1741-internet-number-resources-audit-by-afrinic" target="_blank" class=""></a><br class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div></div>Text Below:<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><h3 style="text-align:justify" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">1)Summary of the Problem Being Addressed by this Policy Proposal</span></h3><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Like the other Regional Internet Registries, AFRINIC will soon exhaust its IPv4 pool. In order to meet the needs of late resource requestors, a transfer policy for IPv4 resources within the region is needed. The goal of this policy is to define conditions under which transfers must occur.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" align="justify" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><h3 class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">2) Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem</span></h3><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">The Policy solves the issue of an African organisation needing IPv4 number resources after the exhaustion of the AFRINIC IPv4 pool or when AFRINIC can no longer satisfy the needs of such an organization.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" align="justify" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><h3 style="text-align:justify" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3) The Proposal</span></h3><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">This policy (IPv4 Soft Landing), applies to the management of address space that will be available to AfriNIC after the current IPv4 pool is depleted. The purpose of this document is to ensure that address space is assigned and/or allocated in a manner that is acceptable to the AfriNIC community especially during this time of IPv4 exhaustion.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" align="justify" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><h4 style="text-align:justify" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.1) This policy takes effect as from phase 2 of the IPv4 soft landing policy (AFPUB-2010-v4-005) or its successor.</span></h4><h4 style="text-align:justify" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.2) Both the source entity and recipient must be AFRINIC members.</span></h4><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""></span><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.3) Conditions on the source of the transfer:</span></div><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.3.1 The source must be the current rightful holder of the IPv4 address resources recognised by AFRINIC, and not be involved in any dispute as to the status of those resources.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.3.2 Source entities will not be eligible to receive any further IPv4 address allocations or assignments from AFRINIC for a period of 12 months after a transfer approval.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.3.3 Source entities must not have received a transfer, allocation, or assignment of IPv4 number resources from AFRINIC for the 12 months prior to the approval of transfer request. This restriction excludes Mergers and Acquisitions transfers.</span></div><p style="text-align:justify;margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><h4 class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.2 Conditions on the recipient of the transfer:</span></h4><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.2.1 AFRINIC has to approve the recipients need for the IPv4 number resources. In order for an organisation to qualify for receiving a transfer, it must first go through the process of justifying its IPv4 resource needs before AFRINIC. That is to say, the organisation must justify before AFRINIC its initial/additional allocation/assignment usage, as applicable, according to the policies in force.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.2.2 The recipient must be a member of AFRINIC and must meet any other requirements defined by AFRINIC.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.2.3 The Recipient will be subject to current AFRINIC policies and sign the RSA for the resources being received.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">3.2.4 Recipients must demonstrate the need for up to a 12-month supply of IPv4 address space.</span></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><h3 class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">4.0 Revision History</span></h3><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> 24 May 2016: First Draft <strong class="">AFPUB-2016-V4-003-DRAFT01</strong> Posted on RPD list</span></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><h3 class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">5.0 References</span></h3><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">AFPUB-2010-v4-005: <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/697-ipv4-soft-landing-policy" target="_blank" class="">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/697-ipv4-soft-landing-policy</a></span><br class=""></div><p style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class=""> </span></p><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Discussions are taking place on the policy working group mailing list if you want to subscribe to the mailing send your subscription request to <strong class="">rpd-request [at] <a href="http://afrinic.net/" target="_blank" class="">afrinic.net</a></strong> with '<strong class="">Subscribe</strong>' as subject line</span></div><hr class=""><div style="margin:0px" class=""><span style="font-size:small" class="">Mailing list archives can be found at <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd</a></span><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Best Regards,</div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Seun Ojedeji<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">Sami Salih<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" class="">AfriNIC PDWG Co-Chairs<br class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">
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