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<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">Comments are in line....<br><br>On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Nishal Goburdhan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" target="_blank">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br><span></span><br><span></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
ok, so using that logic, can is there another RIR that has successfully shown, how this can be done? the case across the world, seems to be that this is too much effort, for too little gain. so, honestly, unless there’s some magician that can show how/why this is likely to be different in africa, it’s reasonable to assume that this is also going to be the case here.<br>
as a paying member, i want afrinic - using its limited resources - to prioritise that, which will take us forward.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>show me a RIR that has equal number of resources in reserve as AFRINIC and I will show you how. The fact is that we are in uncharted waters and prudent measures have to be taken to ensure fair and equitable access to these finite resources. The current situation was not foreseen that why we have this list to propose policies for the way forward. I am also a paying member and I want to be very sure that the next time I request for additional resources, the request will be reevaluated based on what I need and what is truly available and not some sort of artificial scarcity. <br></div><div><br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
but then, i don’t know any magicians.<span><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well I don't know of any either, but I know of something better, which the Community, Board and staff of the organization. It is up to the community to propose policies and it is the job of the Board and staff to implement the policies in a transparent and neutral matter. We need to find solutions to solve own problems as stated in Section 2 of the policy.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span>
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the general “please use these resources in africa” is already implicitly defined in afrinic’s allocation policies; ask any hostmaster.<br>
ie. the spirit of: “AfriNIC allocates resources … for use … in Africa” etc.<br>
so, using the analogy above, the “speed-limit” that’s being requested, is already set.<br>
what’s missing is, the “technology” that’s referenced above. and this “technology” hasn’t actually been explained in the policy, so, there’s not really much to go on.<br></blockquote><div><br>For the avoidance of doubt we are talking about this policy ie
"Internet Number Resources Audit by AFRINIC
(AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT01)" and not as to either the resources should
be used in or out of the AFRINIC region. We can start another thread on debating the
merits and demerits of stating explicitly where the resources should be
used, but now let's not digress. <br><br>So in my analogy, "speed limit" is the policy itself
"to avoiding stockpiling in accordance with RFC7020, IPv4 Allocation
Policy (AFPUB-2005-V4- 001)...." and the "technology" in this case is the
stated in section 3 of the policy which is how the audits will be
conducted. So in essence, once I know AFRINIC as the power and the mandate to explicitly conduct
audits I would be careful about the requests I make, and that in itself is a fair, foolproof, easy and inexpensive deterrent.<br><br></div><div>And for others that may not be deterred by this, section 3.3 a) to c) of the proposal will address it.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
so, go ahead; try to find a fair, foolproof, easy, and inexpensive way to police this. if/when we get to this stage when this looks like it will be completed, it’ll likely be worthless at that time because, by then, it won’t be just the Cool Kids that will be running IPv6, everyone will be doing it.<br>
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</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Just suggested one above and I agreed we should go ahead and let<span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" lang="EN-US"> posterity be the judge as to who will be the Cool Kids on the block running both v4 and/or v6 in a</span><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" lang="EN-US"> efficient and appropriate use of resources.<br><br></span></div><div><span style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"" lang="EN-US">Benjamin </span><span lang="EN-US"></span>
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