<div dir="ltr">Dans ce genre d'initiative, on ne peut qu'exprimer d'avance notre satisfaction. Ce ci pour dire, j'adhère également à cette proposition.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Tidjani MAHAMAT ADOUM<br></div>Ingénieur Réseaux Télécoms<br></div><div>Cellule Fibre Optique (SOTEL-TCHAD)<br></div><div>Ligne Direct: (00235) 66273348 ou 77306979<br></div>Ligne secourt: (00235) 62306979 ou 92306979<br></div>E-mail.S: <a href="mailto:tidjanicapi@hotmail.fr" target="_blank">tidjanicapi@hotmail.fr</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-02-29 14:44 GMT+01:00 namalka omar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:namalka_omar@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">namalka_omar@yahoo.fr</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:lucida console,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><span>Hi</span></div><div><div dir="ltr"> <span>I fully support this policy</span></div></div><div><div><br></div><br><br><br><br></div> <div><br><br></div><div style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:lucida console,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"><font face="Arial" size="2"> Le Lundi 29 février 2016 13h00, "<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<br></font></div> <br><br> <div>Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:rpd-owner@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-owner@afrinic.net</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of RPD digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. 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Re: RPD Digest, Vol 113, Issue 50 (GH.-GNONKOTO Serges PATRICK)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:17:23 +0100<br>From: Mathias HOUNGBO <<a href="mailto:mathias@houngbo.net" target="_blank">mathias@houngbo.net</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [rpd] Proposal Update (was: Re: New Proposal - "Soft<br> Landing - BIS (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-02)"<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:56D40CA3.4090606@houngbo.net" target="_blank">56D40CA3.4090606@houngbo.net</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"<br><br><br>Le 21/02/2016 19:38, Seun Ojedeji a ?crit :<br>><br>> Dear members,<br>><br>> This is to inform that an update has been published for this proposal.<br>><br>> Details can be found at the following URL:<br>><br>> <a href="http://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1625-soft-landing-bis-draft-02-" target="_blank">http://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1625-soft-landing-bis-draft-02-</a><br>><br>> ID: AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-02<br>><br>> Regards<br>><br><br><br>Bonjour ? tous<br><br>Je trouve que cette proposition vient ? point nomm?.<br>mais moi j'ai une question; au vu des statistiques pourquoi<br>n'avoir pas propos? la limite ? un /16 au lieu d'un /15 au point 3.5.1 ?<br><br>Merci<br><br><br>Il n'y a pas de raccourci pour atteindre le d?veloppement.<br>Open source is not limited to software and it is not limited to english either! <br>Mefies toi de la m?diocrit?, c'est la moisissure de l'esprit<br><br>-- <br>My blog : Made in B?nin - <a href="http://mathias.houngbo.net/" target="_blank">http://mathias.houngbo.net </a><br>Charter President ONG IGBANet - <a href="http://www.igbanet.org/" target="_blank">http://www.igbanet.org/ </a><br>(GDG Cotonou, WTM Cotonou, BJNOG, Cotonou LUG, Cotonou Wireless, CodeKid, Hackerspace Cotonou)<br>System and Network Administrator at BCEAO B?nin --- C.T.O & Co-Founder at STARSOFT INFORMATIQUE<br><br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>A non-text attachment was scrubbed...<br>Name: signature.asc<br>Type: application/pgp-signature<br>Size: 819 bytes<br>Desc: OpenPGP digital signature<br>URL: <<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20160229/907c5433/attachment-0001.sig" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20160229/907c5433/attachment-0001.sig</a>><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:43:10 +0000<br>From: GH.-GNONKOTO Serges PATRICK <<a href="mailto:gnonkoto.patrick@artci.ci" target="_blank">gnonkoto.patrick@artci.ci</a>><br>To: "<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 113, Issue 50<br>Message-ID:<br> <<a href="mailto:VI1PR0401MB201365DEA8DF12B462667A47FCBA0@VI1PR0401MB2013.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com" target="_blank">VI1PR0401MB201365DEA8DF12B462667A47FCBA0@VI1PR0401MB2013.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com</a>><br> <br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1258"<br><br>Je soutiens cette proposition en ce qu'elle fait un clin d'?il sur les ccTLD. Moi en tant que responsable du ccTLD ivoirien, d?clarer qu'un TLD soit une ressource critique me r?jouit et dans le m?me temps je souhaite qu'une plage leur soit r?serv?e ? l'instar des IXP.<br>AFRINIC sait que je viens de faire une demande dans ce sens, je suis dans l'attente...<br>Et puis, cette proposition fait la part m?diane et elle consolide nos acquis.<br><br>Patrick.<br><br><br> <a href="http://www.artci.ci" target="_blank">www.artci.ci</a><br> Serges Patrick GHANSAH-GNONKOTO<br> Chef de service Gestion des Noms de domaine et Adresses IP<br> Direction des Syst?mes d?information et des Transactions Electroniques<br> T?l?phone?: <a href="tel:%2B225%2020%2034%2043%2073" value="+22520344373" target="_blank">+225 20 34 43 73</a> / Poste 7960<br> Mobile : <a href="tel:%2B225%2005%2028%2090%2020" value="+22505289020" target="_blank">+225 05 28 90 20</a><br> Fax?: <a href="tel:%2B225%2020%2034%2043%2075" value="+22520344375" target="_blank">+225 20 34 43 75</a><br> Email?: <a href="mailto:gnonkoto.patrick@artci.ci" target="_blank">gnonkoto.patrick@artci.ci</a> <br> <a href="mailto:gnonkoto.patrick@nic.ci" target="_blank">gnonkoto.patrick@nic.ci</a> <br> <a href="mailto:gnonkoto.patrick@testbedipv6.ci" target="_blank">gnonkoto.patrick@testbedipv6.ci</a> <br><br><br>-----Message d'origine-----<br>De?: <a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a>] <br>Envoy??: dimanche 28 f?vrier 2016 12:00<br>??: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>Objet?: RPD Digest, Vol 113, Issue 50<br><br>Send RPD mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> <a href="mailto:rpd-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-request@afrinic.net</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:rpd-owner@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-owner@afrinic.net</a><br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of RPD digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Proposal Update (was: Re: New Proposal - "Soft Landing -<br> BIS (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-02)" (Nishal Goburdhan)<br> 2. Re: Proposal Update (was: Re: New Proposal - "Soft Landing -<br> BIS (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-02)" (Nishal Goburdhan)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:40:36 +0200<br>From: "Nishal Goburdhan" <<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" target="_blank">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>><br>To: "AfriNIC List" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [rpd] Proposal Update (was: Re: New Proposal - "Soft<br> Landing - BIS (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-02)"<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:9EF2B127-82CD-436A-A7CD-87F046B20C62@controlfreak.co.za" target="_blank">9EF2B127-82CD-436A-A7CD-87F046B20C62@controlfreak.co.za</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed<br><br>On 23 Feb 2016, at 15:09, ALAIN AINA wrote:<br><br>> Hello All,<br><br>hi,<br><br>> Thank you all for your interest in our policy proposal. Some of the <br>> impressions being created about what it sets out to achieve are <br>> incorrect. The IPv4 softlanding-bis policy proposal does not intend <br>> to extend IPv4 lifetime at AFRINIC.<br><br>s/lifetime/availability.<br><br>(and that?s not necessarily bad, btw!)<br><br><br>> The policy proposal stays in the spirit of the global Global Policy <br>> for the Allocation of the remaining IPv4 address pool:<br>> <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/135-afpub-2009-v4-001" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/135-afpub-2009-v4-001</a><br>> (section 2 and 3) and the current IPv4 soft landing policy <br>> <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/697-ipv4-soft-landing-polic" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/697-ipv4-soft-landing-polic</a><br>> y<br>> (section 3).<br>><br>> The proposal makes sure the distribution of the final /8 [102/8] is <br>> fair enough based on the current consumption rate, assures <br>> availability of IPv4 to new comers, to Critical Internet <br>> Infrastructure as well as to the current players as we go through the <br>> transition to IPv6.<br>><br>> To achieve this, it says :<br>> - during phase 1, move the maximum from /10 to /15.<br>><br>> <a href="http://afrinic.net/en/services/rs/membership-fees" target="_blank">http://afrinic.net/en/services/rs/membership-fees </a>shows the member <br>> categories and /15 is the median which covers majority of AFRINIC <br>> membership as shown at <br>> <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/services/statistics/membership" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/services/statistics/membership </a> [members by <br>> Category]<br><br>there was a lot of discussion around this at the time of the original policy. many large ISPs felt that a /15 would severely impact them, and (please correct me douglas) that?s why during phase1, this was a large number (/10).<br><br>a median is fine, but, it?s still a median. how do you propose afrinic deal with a large LIR request (specifically during phase1)<br><br><br>> - during phase 2, reserve a block for new comers and for Critical <br>> Internet Infrastructures(new and current). Make sure CIRs get IPv4 <br>> they need for their operations during the exhaustion and the <br>> transition.<br>><br>> CIRs have been expanded to include TLDs during exhaustion phase 2. <br>> gTLDs are coming and ccTLDs being developed..<br>><br>> Definition of CIR in other regions is available at <br>> :<a href="https://www.nro.net/rir-comparative-policy-overview/rir-comparative-policy-overview-2015-04#2-4-2" target="_blank">https://www.nro.net/rir-comparative-policy-overview/rir-comparative-policy-overview-2015-04#2-4-2</a><br><br>to be clear - because you did not state it - are you suggesting that we <br>accept this definition for _this_ region as well? and which definition? <br> it?s good to have reference, but, as has been pointed out before, <br>what works elsewhere is *NOT* the same as what should needlessly be done <br>here. i, for one, would not support .MYSEXYNEWTLD as a critical <br>resource, vs, say an african ccTLD. others might feel otherwise.<br><br>since there are unlikely to be more RIRs created, and we *should* be <br>able to assume that the IANA can take care of itself ;-) what amounts <br>to a CIR please?<br><br><br>> Our initial thinking was that IXPs may benefit from the CIRs block <br>> during the phase 2 as the current reserve may not last and cover their <br>> needs at that time. We have no objection about removing IXPs from <br>> CIRs.<br><br>you?re 100% correct in that the current reserve (when the hostmasters <br>get around to implementing it) might not last. we thumbsucked a number <br>that we thought that the community would be willing to support, which <br>worked to roughly 2x new IXPs per economy (well, less actually). more <br>space would be nice.<br>i don?t recall reading anyone asking for an exclusion; i asked <br>specifically how you saw the IXP?s *need* for non-network <br>announcement, and *want* for allocations from a contiguous block, to <br>easily identify accidental route leakage, to be addressed within this <br>policy. that remains unanswered.<br><br><br>> IPv6 deployment is slow. AFRNIC has the lowest rate of members with <br>> v4/v6[1]. During exhaustion, one must have IPv6 (from AFRINIC or <br>> upstreams ) when requesting IPv4.<br><br>i am still opposed to this part. as it seems are others. i am happy <br>with the request-v4-once idea once you hit exhaustion phase X. but <br>i?m not happy about forcing an ipv6 allocation down someone?s <br>throat; that hardly sounds bottom-up to me?<br><br><br>> Deployment may not be enforceable but it puts IPv6 transition forward <br>> as the clear agenda at this time.<br><br>ok, so then to save time, why doesn?t afrinic simply allocate the <br>minimum the appropriate minimum IPv6 allocation to existing LIRs and EUs <br>*now*; ie. *every* resource member in good standing, that doesn?t <br>already have an IPv6 allocation, automatically gets the minimum <br>allocation per IPv6 allocation policy ? think of how many more cute <br>infographics can be made showing IPv6 rollout^Wallocations^Wgrowth^W^W <br>in africa !!! :-)<br><br>incidentally, quoting from your earlier paragraph:<br>?The policy proposal stays in the spirit of ? soft landing (section <br>3)?<br><br>and then reading those references:<br>135-afpub-2009-v4-001:<br>?This policy describes the process for the allocation of the remaining <br>IPv4 space from IANA to the RIRs?<br><br>and:<br>697-ipv4-soft-landing-policy section 3:<br>?This policy (IPv4 Soft Landing), applies to the management of address <br>space that will be available to AfriNIC after the current IPv4 pool is <br>depleted.?<br>? in fact, the words IPv6 do not appear in soft landing, section 3, <br>*at all*.<br><br>so, i?d strongly suggest to the authors to decouple ?IPv4 management <br>under soft landing? (which i think is important) from, ?enforced <br>ipv6 allocations?<br><br>best,<br>?n.<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:45:07 +0200<br>From: "Nishal Goburdhan" <<a href="mailto:nishal@controlfreak.co.za" target="_blank">nishal@controlfreak.co.za</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>Subject: Re: [rpd] Proposal Update (was: Re: New Proposal - "Soft<br> Landing - BIS (AFPUB-2016-V4-001-DRAFT-02)"<br>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:80C892BB-DD96-4BC9-A424-EABC57A81155@controlfreak.co.za" target="_blank">80C892BB-DD96-4BC9-A424-EABC57A81155@controlfreak.co.za</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed<br><br>On 24 Feb 2016, at 19:16, Joshua Atah wrote:<br><br>> I strongly support this proposal. It is perhaps our only hope of <br>> avoiding a<br>> crisis in a short while from now.<br><br>no it isn?t. you can learn to use IPv6 and/or nat444 or SIIT, or ?<br><br>there are many good elements to the policy, and, perhaps, some bad ones.<br>it?s a lot more constructive to discuss the merits and shortcomings, <br>than to attempt to inflict policy through fear-mongering?<br><br>?n.<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of RPD Digest, Vol 113, Issue 50<br>************************************<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>RPD mailing list<br><a href="mailto:RPD@afrinic.net" target="_blank">RPD@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of RPD Digest, Vol 113, Issue 51<br>************************************<br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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