<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Dr Paulos Nyirenda <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paulos@sdnp.org.mw" target="_blank">paulos@sdnp.org.mw</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 14 Jul 2015 at 10:19, Jackson Muthili <<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ...<br>
<span class="">> Dr Nyirenda, Alan Barrett already took side with his violent defending<br>
> of Andrew Alston. If the proof you seek is in those transcripts and it<br>
> is Alan to cause them to be published then you may not get anything<br>
> from Alan Barrett because he already rebuffed said allegations against<br>
> Alston.<br>
</span>> ...<br>
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Mmmm ... I have confidence that Alan and Sunday will, hopefully, do the right thing.<br>
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By entering this debate it does not mean that I am for or against Andrew, not at all, I just<br>
would like the Board to do the right thing and open it up so that the community can see that<br>
they have done the right thing. It is not open enough right now, not transparent enough and<br>
has inadequate accountability, but the information is there to clear this up ... there is a<br>
transcript that can clear all this up ... release it so that we can move forward.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>FWIW i like to add my absolute +1 to what Paulos has said above.<br><br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Regards,<br>
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Paulos<br>
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> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:41 AM, Dr Paulos Nyirenda <<a href="mailto:paulos@sdnp.org.mw">paulos@sdnp.org.mw</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > In order to get this Andrew/Board Integrity issue to a close it appears that Board<br>
> > "minutes" of the November 2014 Board meeting may not be enough based on the current<br>
> > community outcry that is obvious on these mailing lists.<br>
> ><br>
> > Having attended the Nov'14 Board meeting, I am aware that there is a transcript on that<br>
> > Board meeting, and it is from that transcript that the "minutes" are currently being<br>
> > crafted, hopefully, to be "provided" to the community soon, excerpts of which were aired<br>
> > in Tunis, they came from that transcript.<br>
> ><br>
> > One way to close this issue is to publish the entire transcript of the Nov'14 Board<br>
> > meeting for everyone in the community to see, read or hear for themselves. It will close<br>
> > the issue of who said what or who admitted what.<br>
> ><br>
> > I know for sure that someone will scream "NDA" but we have gone past that now and<br>
> > entered an era for more transparency and accountability in AFRINIC for which some of us<br>
> > have been pushing hard at Board level, with good results.<br>
> ><br>
> > I am sure Alan Barrett or AFRINIC staff can easily confirm that such a transcript does<br>
> > exist.<br>
><br>
> Dr Nyirenda, Alan Barrett already took side with his violent defending<br>
> of Andrew Alston. If the proof you seek is in those transcripts and it<br>
> is Alan to cause them to be published then you may not get anything<br>
> from Alan Barrett because he already rebuffed said allegations against<br>
> Alston.<br>
><br>
> > Just publish the transcript for everyone to see, read or hear. By now there is<br>
> > nothing in that transcript that should cause anyone to scream "NDA". It will become<br>
> > public anyway if people take each other to court!<br>
> ><br>
> > Regards,<br>
> ><br>
> > Paulos<br>
> > ======================<br>
> > Dr Paulos B Nyirenda<br>
> > <a href="http://NIC.MW" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">NIC.MW</a> & .mw ccTLD<br>
> > <a href="http://www.registrar.mw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.registrar.mw</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 13 Jul 2015 at 18:21, Boubakar Barry <<a href="mailto:Boubakar.Barry@wacren.net">Boubakar.Barry@wacren.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >> Sunday, Board Members, Colleagues,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Can we find a way to get this on a close?<br>
> >><br>
> >> To be honest, I don't think this is rocket science!<br>
> >><br>
> >> Why not:<br>
> >><br>
> >> 1. Publish the November 2014 minutes many of us are waiting for;<br>
> >><br>
> >> 2. Publish the minutes of the Board meeting that dealt with Mr. Andrew Alston's<br>
> > Integrity Issue;<br>
> >><br>
> >> 3. Make sure that these minutes are genuine with bold evidence that it's so, so that<br>
> > the fear of the<br>
> >> former Chair that those minutes may have been edited can be ruled out.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Very simple way forward for me. And the earlier, the better.<br>
> >><br>
> >> And I wish to put on record that if the Board is not able to resolve this simple<br>
> > matter in a<br>
> >> reasonable time frame, I will file a motion for the entire Board to resign, as I<br>
> > suggested in Tunis.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best,<br>
> >><br>
> >> B.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> Alan<br>
> >><br>
> >> > On 13 Jul 2015, at 19:37, Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net">alan.barrett@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> >> On Mon, 13 Jul 2015, Boubakar Barry wrote:<br>
> >> >> Alan,<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> This could have resolved long time ago, one way or another, if Board had<br>
> >> >> shared minutes of the meeting in question as requested by members of the<br>
> >> >> community I don't know how many times now (countless!).<br>
> >> >><br>
> >> >> Why make simple things complicated, wasting the time of all of us?<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > The Board agreed to share the minutes when they are ready. The minutes<br>
> >> > are not ready.<br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > I don't see how minutes of a meeting will affect the issue under<br>
> >> > discussio<br>
> >><br>
> >> I think the issue under discussion is that during a board meeting a board member<br>
> > made a<br>
> >> statement that could put his integrity to properly perform the role in question.<br>
> >><br>
> >> One or two board members thought that this issue was of importance since a number of<br>
> >> similar issues were being discussed that morning with all sorts of claims and<br>
> > accusations<br>
> >> being exchanged.<br>
> >><br>
> >> A number of decisions were made that day. Accusations hurled also ended up in some<br>
> >> external forum which caused concern for the organisation.<br>
> >><br>
> >> All this happened before you took the role of CEO.<br>
> >><br>
> >> These were important meetings which the community is asking to get more details on.<br>
> >><br>
> >> In Tunis the board decided to edit these meetings and offer a sanitised version<br>
> > which was<br>
> >> not reflective of the actual facts.<br>
> >><br>
> >> In Tunis community asked board to handle the issue.<br>
> >><br>
> >> However when board reported back it was made to look like an external party made an<br>
> >> allegation against the board member in question.<br>
> >><br>
> >> When the true fact was that the board member in question under his own free will<br>
> > and of<br>
> >> sound mind made the statements. No one coerced the submission from him he was asked<br>
> >> a question and he answered.<br>
> >><br>
> >> My involvement in this thread started by only asking to understand the difference<br>
> > between<br>
> >> an admission and an allegation. Two very different issues<br>
> >><br>
> >> And I think you can follow the rest of the threads.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I also responded to the email in the morning because my name was linked to the<br>
> > allegation.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I do hope this makes it clearer.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I have no axe to grind and no other agenda. Nor did I start this thread which<br>
> > bothers me that<br>
> >> you have chosen to single me out from the many people who have commented on this<br>
> >> thread.<br>
> >><br>
> >> I'm even waiting for my court papers with anxiety<br>
> >><br>
> >> But I think the community should be given all the facts. They are mature enough to<br>
> > read<br>
> >> between the lines.<br>
> >><br>
> >> And as I said earlier the organisation is bigger and stronger than any one<br>
> > individual it will<br>
> >> survive this too and many more in the future.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Let's not break our basic principles it's a bottom up process ultimately the<br>
> > community is<br>
> >> more important and it is asking for information<br>
> >><br>
> >> Sorry for the length but i thought I needed to draw a better picture I do hope it<br>
> > is clearer.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Regards.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Badru<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> ><br>
> >> > --apb (Alan Barrett)<br>
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