<p dir="ltr">Dear,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Services are SLA bound for efficiency and there is absolutely no reason why there shouldn't be a time frame for Afrinic's allocation responses, especially where such cases are springing forth often. I wholly support that Afrinic should define and make public timelines for allocation. In furtherance, an annual audit report on SLA should be provided.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I do not see how this adds to the burden of Afrinic's staff except to improve operational service level.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards,<br>
Ademola Osindero</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 7, 2015 7:52 PM, "Jean Robert Hountomey" <<a href="mailto:jrhountomey@gmail.com">jrhountomey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Vladimir, Jerome and Al,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your patience with the AfriNIC Community. While I support the fact that it is not acceptable to delay a business<br>
with unreasonable requests, I don’t think that AfriNIC's staff has a malicious intention.<br>
<br>
Also I understand that something need to be done, and I fear that tackling it through a policy may not be the best option, it will add<br>
delays from approval to adoption etc...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
My suggestion (I second Adam) will be approaching AfriNIC's CEO. In addition I think your issue and the one from CloudFlare and many others can be resolved<br>
if we ask AfriNIC to implement a Conflict Arbitration Procedure in the Membership documents.<br>
<br>
A possible way would be to ask the Board to task the Council of Elders (defined in Article 16 of AfriNIC bylaws) to propose such a procedure and to nominate<br>
Arbiters from AfriNIC region - and other Region - to serve as mediators in conflicts between AfriNIC and its members, and to evaluate the validity of such<br>
requests.<br>
<br>
I think RIPE NCC will be ok if we copy what they have in place and add our own part. (1).<br>
I will also call for an Audit procedure to allow Arbiters to review allocation. RIPE NCC has a good sample.(2).<br>
<br>
(1). <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-613" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-613</a><br>
(2). <a href="https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-423" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-423</a><br>
<br>
In addition, I see that you have also reported issues with the SLA. I don't know if AfriNIC's CEO is part of <a href="mailto:admin-escalate@afrinic.net" target="_blank">admin-escalate@afrinic.net</a><br>
but we know him, and this can be reported to him.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Jean Robert.<br>
<br>
On 6/5/15 10:10 AM, Jérôme Fleury wrote:<br>
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Vladimir,<br>
<br>
We (CloudFlare) are in the exact same situation as you:<br>
<br>
- Company decides to make investments in Africa<br>
- Company registered in Seychelles<br>
- Unreasonable requests from hostmaster (he wanted the list of our 2<br>
million domain names)<br>
- allocation request started in October 2014, still no IP allocated<br>
- wait times between replies are between 2 and 3 weeks<br>
- the only way I found to get an escalation was to use Twitter - per<br>
policy, <a href="mailto:admin-escalate@afrinic.net" target="_blank">admin-escalate@afrinic.net</a> is unresponsive<br>
- Plus adding a misinterpretation on the Anycast policy<br>
<br>
This is delaying our deployment in Kenya and expansion in Johannesburg<br>
where we already are.<br>
<br>
I second your proposal.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Vladimir Kangin <<a href="mailto:v@kangin.org" target="_blank">v@kangin.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,<br>
AFRINIC community,<br>
<br>
Please allow me to tell you a 3 minute story before proposing some<br>
suggestions for further discussion.<br>
<br>
I would like to bring to your attention AGAIN, the case of IPTP<br>
Networks. Being part of IPTP Holding PLC established in Cyprus. That's<br>
200 miles away from Egypt for those who do not know where Cyprus is<br>
situated. IPTP Networks is a member in good standing of LACNIC, APNIC,<br>
ARIC and RIPE for quite some time and operates one of the largest global<br>
networks across all of the continents.<br>
<br>
In 2012 a decision was made by IPTP Holding PLC to invest and expand in<br>
Africa. In order to be present in an AFRINIC region a company was<br>
registered in the Seychelles. Our team has tried to secure initial<br>
allocation of /22 for the star-up in Africa. However somehow,<br>
communication had no progress. As a consequence last AFRINIC I decided<br>
to visit AFRINIC in person in an effort to speed up the process.<br>
<br>
As per AFRINIC advice we apply for /22 allocation in November 2014. We<br>
clearly illustrated our plans and were given assurances that companies<br>
such as IPTP Networks are welcome in Africa and that there will be no<br>
issues in allocation.<br>
<br>
During AFRINIC (roughly 7 months ago) we explained that we would like to<br>
have /22 allocation for our project in Johannesburg and based on advice<br>
from Arthur we obtained and provided a letter of intent as proof of our<br>
agreements with Colocation and Network providers to deploy our POP in<br>
Johannesburg.<br>
<br>
However we have had no progress with allocation for a few months. At<br>
this stage the AFRINIC team has informed our team that until we actually<br>
deploy all equipment and network in Africa we would not get any<br>
allocation. We were then given further assurances that as soon as our<br>
presence in Africa was established there would be no further delays and<br>
issues.<br>
<br>
Based on this information IPTP Holding PLC has approved an investment<br>
into the Johannesburg POP and as of April a full size POP has been<br>
operating in Teraco JB1 datacenter. From that point we have endured a<br>
monthly expense while our AFRINIC /22 allocation case kept being<br>
delayed. We were repeatedly advised that in accordance with AFRINIC RSA<br>
(due to so many fake applications) hostmasters are in the position to<br>
request ANY documents from the applicants. Some of the documents that<br>
have been requested are strictly confidential and we did our best to<br>
obtain said documents from our vendors/providers together with the<br>
appropriate letters.<br>
<br>
However our documents were not accepted and Arthur continuously insisted<br>
on documents that we cannot disclose. Having escalated it further we<br>
have had a discussion with Medhvi and she has shown her full support for<br>
the inadequate requirements of Arthur. Our position on this issue is<br>
simple and open. We are happy to provide any reasonable proof of our<br>
presence. We are OK with involving Terraco and Level(3) representatives<br>
to provide required evidence too. The hostmasters reject these options.<br>
At the same time Arthur is continually handling this case in a most<br>
unfavorable way, taking a lot of resources from our team and delaying<br>
the start date of operations in IPTP's Johannesburg POP.<br>
<br>
We have large number of customers signed with IPTP Networks that are<br>
waiting for the service to be delivered. This creates an additional<br>
financial loss to IPTP Networks.<br>
<br>
Medvi and Arthur have stated clearly that they cannot trust the letter<br>
provided by Teraco (because there have been a number of forgeries) but<br>
refuse to meet Teraco representative for confirmation. I therefore have<br>
to admit that the policy is not sufficient and allows hostmasters to<br>
make unilateral decisions at their sole discretion.<br>
<br>
Based on the unpleasant experience above I would like to humbly propose<br>
few important changes to the RSA and policy:<br>
<br>
Summary of proposal:<br>
<br>
This proposal is to improve service quality and transparency of<br>
AFRINIC's number resource service.<br>
<br>
Proposal:<br>
1. AFRINIC Shall define a clear time-frame for approval and escalation<br>
whereby cases will be address to the management in a timely manner.<br>
(It would allow to rectify the endless loop or let's say “ping pong”<br>
cases in a constructive way)<br>
2. AFRINIC shall simplify the extra-small and small allocation process<br>
for companies entering the African continent. This can, for instance, be<br>
copied from LACNIC whereby a company can be allocated a /22 on a basis<br>
that it confirms its intention to start operations within 6 month of<br>
assignment.<br>
(Such treatment is certain to stimulate foreign companies' investment in<br>
Africa, a fact that I am certain is welcome in this room)<br>
3. AFRINIC should publish standard documentary requirements for each<br>
type of request for resource allocation.<br>
(It is not enough to leave it up to the hostmaster's sole discretion to<br>
request ANY information as is the case now in accordance with the<br>
current RSA. This could allow the hostmasters to abuse the policy and<br>
potentially pressure applicants for “bakshish”)<br>
4. AFRINIC should not store or request any marketing, business related<br>
or basically non-technical information. For instance customer data,<br>
marketing channels, marketing budgets etc.<br>
5. AFRINIC allocation should be solely based on current policy, no other<br>
factors other than policy should influence AFRINIC's decision on<br>
processing allocation.<br>
6. AFRINIC shall carefully select the hostmasters and monitor their<br>
activities. In case of any suspicious activity the offender shall be<br>
immediately suspended.<br>
7. AFRINIC policy working group chair election should be conducted<br>
independent from AFRINIC board nomination committee. Candidates should<br>
be free of any requirements.<br>
<br>
--<br>
Best regards,<br>
Vladimir Kangin<br>
IPTP Inc Seychelles<br>
Part of IPTP Networks<br>
IPTP HOLDING PUBLIC LIMITED<br>
<br>
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