<p dir="ltr">I asked a simple question Lu - organisations usually have publications and websites stating products and services. Do we consider such information as private?</p>
<p dir="ltr">You should be thinking about how to hold on to your existing /12 - IMHO policy was not well interpreted. Our RIR may be facing financial constraints but that is not "justification" for executives to irresponsibly dish out /12s.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Aside policy and by-laws AfriNIC has mission and goal statements which should also guide its operations and partnership.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 23, 2014 4:04 PM, "Lu" <<a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Both of you (Jackson and kofi) have no support ground and have no understanding of basic principal of the policy, so for two of you: none of your business! Unless your guys able to passing a policy force such disclosure, I guess you will never know the answer in a legitimate manner. So just stoping asking other people's business in a public mailing list.<br>
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> On 2014年11月23日, at 下午12:36, Jackson Muthili <<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Why is it you have big issue to disclosing your activities? Why they<br>
> are so secret yet you ask two full /12??<br>
><br>
> What are you hiding?<br>
><br>
> Legitimate member in community are concerned because you seem to be<br>
> siphoning Africa resources into China. No smoke with no fire.<br>
><br>
> You already demonstrated your ability to lie in afrinic election at<br>
> djibouti. This reason enough to believe you Lie to afrinic about your<br>
> activity to grab two /12. Afrinic is right to be cautious on you.<br>
> Yours is special case and board is right also to specially be advise<br>
> of you.<br>
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>> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Lu Heng <<a href="mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com">h.lu@anytimechinese.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi Alan:<br>
>><br>
>> I have confirmed it with almost every RIR staff, none RIR board should<br>
>> be involved in member's allocation decision, however, following<br>
>> sentence is what we receive directly in our ticket with Afrinic:<br>
>><br>
>> "In response to your follow-up call yesterday - your request is still<br>
>> pending board decision. We<br>
>> shall advise you of the same as soon as received."<br>
>><br>
>> And for the second part, you simply misunderstand what I said, of<br>
>> course we will provide(and we did, our allocation request has been<br>
>> pending for 10 months now!) document for Afrinic to review.<br>
>><br>
>> I am simply saying what we do and how we use our resource is not<br>
>> people in this mailing's business(as people ware asking here what we<br>
>> do in this mailing list). We have no obligation as well as no reason<br>
>> to answer such question in a public mailing list.<br>
>><br>
>>> On 11/23/14, Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:apb@cequrux.com">apb@cequrux.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Lu Heng wrote:<br>
>>>> My allocation has been told that under board decision for past 2 month.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am not aware of anything in the IPv4<br>
>>> allocation policy, (AFPUB-2005-v4-001<br>
>>> <<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/126-afpub-2005-v4-001" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/126-afpub-2005-v4-001</a>>)<br>
>>> that provides for review or decision making by the board.<br>
>>><br>
>>>> And for whom ask about how and why we used up our allocation--simple<br>
>>>> reply--none of your business.<br>
>>><br>
>>> It is very much Afrinic's business to know how an applicant is<br>
>>> using or plans to use their address space, so that they can check<br>
>>> how much address space is appropriate, and whether policies have<br>
>>> been followed. Policies specifically require applicants to<br>
>>> provide documentation of their network plans.<br>
>>><br>
>>> For example, see the following parts of AFPUB-2005-v4-001:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 6.5 Assignment<br>
>>> ... Assignments must only be made for specific purposes documented<br>
>>> by specific organisations and are not to be sub-assigned to other<br>
>>> parties.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 7.2 Conflict of goals<br>
>>> ... IRs evaluating requests for allocations and assignments must<br>
>>> carefully analyze all relevant considerations and must seek to<br>
>>> balance the needs of the applicant with the needs of the Internet<br>
>>> community as a whole. ...<br>
>>><br>
>>> 7.3 Documentation<br>
>>> In order to properly evaluate requests, an RIR must carefully<br>
>>> examine all relevant documentation relating to the networks in<br>
>>> question. Such documentation may include network engineering<br>
>>> plans, subnetting plans, descriptions of network topology, and<br>
>>> descriptions of network routing plans. All documentation should<br>
>>> conform to a consistent standard and any estimates and predictions<br>
>>> that are documented must be realistic and justifiable.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 8.1 Introduction<br>
>>> ... Determination of IP address space allocation size is the<br>
>>> responsibility of AFRINIC staff.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 9.1 Documentation<br>
>>> The information required by AFRINIC to justify an end-user's<br>
>>> IP address requirements include addressing needs, network<br>
>>> infrastructure and future plans. Such information is required<br>
>>> when an LIR is requesting IP space for their end-users at the<br>
>>> time of sending in the request. In order to ensure that previous<br>
>>> sub-allocation are not duplicated, the current address space usage<br>
>>> is also required. This information is essential in making the<br>
>>> appropriate sub-allocation approvals, and the level of detail will<br>
>>> depend on the size of the request and complexity of the network.<br>
>>> ...<br>
>>><br>
>>> If it's an end user assignment, then in<br>
>>> addition to the general requirements in<br>
>>> AFPUB-2005-v4-001, the requirements in AFPUB-2006-GEN-001<br>
>>> <<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/127-afpub-2006-gen-001" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/127-afpub-2006-gen-001</a>><br>
>>> also apply. They include:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 4 Additional Assignment<br>
>>> ... Requestors must show exactly how previous address assignments<br>
>>> have been utilized and must provide appropriate details to verify<br>
>>> their one-year growth projection. ...<br>
>>><br>
>>> --apb (Alan Barrett)<br>
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>> --<br>
>> Kind regards.<br>
>> Lu<br>
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