<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 September 2014 21:16, Andrew Alston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kofi,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Again speaking as myself and not representative of the board or any other organisation to which I am affiliated.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">If you feel there should be policy updates, you as a member of this community are as free as any other individual to draft and propose
policy amendments.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Instead of everyone being upset by current policy and asking for amendments and waiting for someone else to do it, how about taking
the lead and proposing some policy and if the community agrees, we can implement?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div>Andrew I take that as as a challenge to propose an amendment to the current IPv4 allocation policies as well as promote building IPv6 infrastructure in parallel to prevent our region from lagging behind in the current evolution to next generation infrastructure.<br><br></div><div>As someone who has actively experience both sides of the process I believe I provided a fair platform in this discussion to the community of what is as stake.<br></div><div><br>The community must realize they have the ultimate say in how our resources are exploited to promote regional development and hold accountable those entrusted to interpret policies.<br><br></div><div>We could continue deceiving ourselves it is not the job of our internet registries (both RIR and LIRs) to "police" the allocation of our resources and proactive checks of right usage. <br></div><div><br>The key phrase here is "promote regional development" BUT NOT necessarily "keep resources in the region". IMHO content and infrastructure in our region should be priority. Again we have the choice to be passive, turn blind eyes and entrust decision process to a few to make or proactively get involved to exploit our resources for the regions development.<br><br></div><div>Cheers<br><br></div><div>K.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-GB"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kofi ANSA AKUFO<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 21 September 2014 18:27<br>
<b>To:</b> Ernest<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AfriNIC Discuss; AfriNIC List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] [afnog] A typical case of abuse of our resources!!!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 21 September 2014 12:22, Ernest <<a href="mailto:ernest@afrinic.net" target="_blank">ernest@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Adiel Akplogan wrote thus on 9/20/14, 11:41 PM:<br>
> Hello Boubakar,<br>
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> On Sep 20, 2014, at 23:28 PM, Boubakar Barry<br>
> <<a href="mailto:boubakarbarry@gmail.com" target="_blank">boubakarbarry@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> The number of posts in this thread and the discussions held in<br>
>> Djibouti show that the community wants clarification on this<br>
>> allocation.<br>
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>> In the best interest of our organisation (i.e. AfriNIC) and in<br>
>> order to restore trust, Management and Board should take this<br>
>> seriously and provide adequate responses to the issues raised.<br>
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> This allocation has followed the same process and procedure as<br>
> any other requests sent to the IP analysts. In term of<br>
> application and interpretation of the current policy nothing in<br>
> this one was different. I think the RS team will be sending all<br>
> the clarifications on the process shortly. Beyond that, I think<br>
> there is a lot of emotional speculation that we need to avoid to<br>
> be dragged into … as you said in the interest of the<br>
> organisation.<br>
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Further to Adiel's mail above:<br>
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We have studied the community's concerns and comments (in this<br>
thread) regarding the address resource <a href="http://154.80.0.0/12" target="_blank">
154.80.0.0/12</a> that was<br>
allocated to Cloud Innovation on 2013-Jul-24.<br>
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Although we cannot divulge detailed information due to<br>
confidentiality requirements, let us take this opportunity to point<br>
out the following:<br>
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o The request was received and evaluated as usual, against<br>
compliance with all criteria in the IPv4 Allocation Policy and it<br>
fully satisfied all eligibility requirements.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">o Being a large chunk of space, the hostmaster team provided an<br>
evaluation report to executive management (which contained the<br>
evaluation process and the team’s recommended decision on the<br>
request). Management consequently approved its issuance.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">o The current IPv4 allocation policy does not contain any<br>
restrictions to out-of-region address space usage specifically when<br>
end-users of that space are located out of region. What IP analysts<br>
examine is the legal existence of the requestor (and its<br>
infrastructure that supports services to be provided) in the region.<br>
Where customers are located is generally not the IP Analysts main<br>
concern unless there is observed incoherence in the request.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Which means our current IPv4 policies needs amendment to fall inline or concretely reflect the regions development agenda without stiffening expansion of services to other regions.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">o We have in the past few meetings informed the community (in the<br>
policy implementation report) about the observed increase in<br>
requests from companies registered in our region of service (with<br>
evidence of their infrastructure hosted in the region) but<br>
planning to provide services that are used by customers out of<br>
region. We informed the community with intent that the community<br>
considers a policy around this issue if deemed necessary.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Should we interpret this as "content which promote the regions development" should be KEY in any amendment proposed?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We would like to state here that as long as a request has adhered to<br>
policy, AFRINIC will in most cases approve it, unless there are<br>
other visible factors impeding its approval (and needing further<br>
study and perhaps escalation).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Again any proposal to amend current policy should spell out a clear escalation process to include the member community.<u></u><u></u></p>
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Regards,<br>
Ernest.<br>
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