<div dir="ltr"><br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 19 September 2014 15:46, Sunday Folayan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com" target="_blank">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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On 19/09/2014 12:03, Kofi ANSA AKUFO wrote:<br>
>>>> Amigo,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> When I last checked the policy space, there was nothing that<br>
>>>> showed you lighting a candle, instead of this persistent<br>
>>>> cursing of the darkness.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> :) I wouldn't call it cursing of the darkness, but rather<br>
>>>>> stimulating discussion to explore our policy processes and<br>
>>>>> policies implemented to steer away from "lighting candles"<br>
>>>>> that will be blown out quickly.<br>
>>>><br>
><br>
> It would be blown away, if such candles are lit on a windy day. Of<br>
> course, no one will notice if it is sunny as well.<br>
><br>
> Would be great if people see you as stimulating discussions, and<br>
> not belly-aching about the organization, its processes and the<br>
> integrity of the management and staff. What looks visible here, is<br>
> the prophet and not the message. Perhaps you need to change your<br>
> tactics and method for a reasonable impact. Discretion is the<br>
> greater part of valour.<br>
><br>
> Sunday<br>
><br>
>> Thanks for sharing your opinion. Could you be specific where any<br>
>> staff of AFRINIC has been criticized in this post other than the<br>
>> process and framework staff find themselves working in?<br>
<br>
You wrote this ... "I know for sure some AFRINIC hostmasters did their<br>
best to prevent this but then their efforts are over ridden by so<br>
called management ..." here<br>
<a href="http://afnog.org/pipermail/afnog/2014-September/001824.html" target="_blank">http://afnog.org/pipermail/afnog/2014-September/001824.html</a> Is "So<br>
Called Management" a normal grammatical construct?<br>
<br>
>> I believe you been a board member can help to enlighten the<br>
>> community about the processes and ADDRESS the issues rather than<br>
>> shut down discussions.<br>
<br>
Go and read my exploits and position with the now dead and buried<br>
Academic policy, co-authored with Andrew Alston, who is now also a<br>
Board member. We crooned, begged, preached and populated the mailing<br>
lists took several mikes at Lusaka, Abidjan and lately Djobouti. Wake<br>
up! There is no room for selective Amnesia here.<br>
<br>
>> As a long standing board member let the community know whether<br>
>> the board approved the first time allocation of /12 IPv4 to this<br>
>> ORG?<br>
<br>
The Board approves policies, not allocations. Show me where in the<br>
rule, it tasks the Board with approving allocations?<br>
<br>
> If yes why?<br>
<br>
Not Applicable.<br>
<br>
>> What policies framework was followed to approve this block?<br>
<br>
Ask our hostmasters after the next hostmasters' report at the next<br>
meeting in MU. If you want them to seek approval from you, propose a<br>
policy in that regard.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>Why wait for the meeting in MU? As much as I can remember as an AFRINIC hostmaster, allocations greater than /16 IPv4 have to be approved by management and board based on hostmasters recommendation. To give you a heads up I have had my fingers burnt for going against the contrary of approving without management consent.<br><br></div><div>So please let me know on what basis was /12 allocation approved?<br></div><div> </div><div>Do you believe the the example in question brought up is contributing to our regional development? If No what procedures should be put in place to reclaim such allocations?<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
>> This will help to enlighten the community about the flaws in our<br>
>> processes and policies and sensitize many when it comes to voting<br>
>> and implementation of policies.<br>
<br>
Cool. I however have not seen anyone display some lack of<br>
understanding of our policies here, rather the deliberate attempt to<br>
pull down the house.<br>
<br>
When I checked .... <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=193262322" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=193262322</a><br>
<br>
I saw a Kofi ANSA AKUFO, IP Resource Analyst AFRINIC<br>
June 2013 – December 2013 (7 months)Ebene Mauritius<br>
- - Handling of requests for AFRINIC membership.<br>
- - Allocation and assignment of address space in response to approved<br>
requests.<br>
[Others deleted]<br>
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Perhaps the community should be asking you if it is ... Sour grapes?<br></blockquote><div><br>Come on Sunday lets not resort to personal attacks but rather address there issues in the discussion. Again lets address the issues.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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If you have the slightest idea about how we can keep African Addresses<br>
in Africa for the sake of Africans, bring it on. I will support you to<br>
high heavens.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>Exactly - the first process is learning to ask the right questions. <br><br></div><div>Should we be asking "how to keep African Addresses in Africa for the sake of Africans" given the inherent globalization footprints of these internet resources?<br></div><div><br></div><div>OR<br><br></div><div>Should we be asking how to exploit the challenges and impact of current technologies (State of art Data Centers,Virtualization, City Surveillance Systems, R&D etc) which are gradually becoming defacto standards with our Regions Allocations to spark regional development.<br></div><div><br></div><div>cheers<br><br></div><div>K.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sunday.<br>
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