<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Sorry fiona i missed this email. I would like to catch up on this one. Thanks for the note. Gradients could be perhaps worked out i think giving out a whole % in first shot may be too opened. Then i would perhaps go with Badru's sugggestion an initial cap and then max of 40% or 35%. As we are all seeing the 40% as too much and 30% keeps coming back then let's just say 33% will be good allocation and a s a cap.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 10, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Fiona Asonga <<a href="mailto:tespok@tespok.co.ke">tespok@tespok.co.ke</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hallo Kris,<br><br>I would prefer a fixed % so as not to delay requests for increase during deployment. The staff will have to be very responsive in order to efficiently work with a gradient model. My personal experience is they are not as responsive as they should be which becomes an implementation problem......<br><br>regards<br><br>Fiona Asonga <br>Chief Executive Officer <br>Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ Kenya Internet Exchange Point <br>Member Strategic Committee of the Africa Computer Emergency Response Team <br><br>NRO Number Council <a href="http://www.nro.net/about/number-council.html">http://www.nro.net/about/number-council.html</a> <br><br>ASO Address Council <a href="http://aso.icann.org/ac/">http://aso.icann.org/ac/</a> <br><br><br>14 th Floor, Bruce House <br>Standard Street <br><br>Tel: +254 20 2245 036 <br>Cell: +254 721 713 504 <br><br>Website: <a href="http://www.tespok.or.ke">www.tespok.or.ke</a> <br><br><br><br>“Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction <br>within the Industry and Government” <br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Krishna Seeburn" <<a href="mailto:seeburn.k@gmail.com">seeburn.k@gmail.com</a>><br>To: "Badru Ntege" <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br>Cc: "rpd" <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>><br>Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 7:48:00 AM<br>Subject: Re: [rpd] New proposal - "Out-Of-Region Use of AFRINIC Internet<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Number Resources" (AFPUB-2014-GEN-002-DRAFT-01)<br><br><br><br>I second the idea badru but how about being cautios and allocate in gradients of 10% going up to ceiling of 40%. Based on justifications. This should help both hostmaster and the member as well. This would also help in making sure the justifications are valid as we go up. <br><br>Kris Seeburn <br>skype: kris_seeburn30 <br>Linkedin:mu.linkedin.com/in/kseeburn <br><br>On 5 Jul 2014, at 08:19, Badru Ntege < <a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a> > wrote: <br><br><br><br><br><br>Hi <br><br><br>I like the policy but would suggest an initial ceiling of 20% with extra justification to use upto 40% <br><br><br>Badru Ntege <br>Sent from my Mobile <br><br>On 4 Jul 2014, at 18:01, "Seun Ojedeji" < <a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a> > wrote: <br><br><br><br><br><br>Dear members, <br><br>We have received a new policy Proposal - "Out-Of-Region Use of AFRINIC Internet Number Resources" (AFPUB-2014-GEN-002-DRAFT-01) <br><br>Draft Policy name: Out-Of-Region Use of AFRINIC Internet Number Resources <br>Unique identifier: AFPUB-2014-GEN-002-DRAFT-01 <br>Status: New <br>Submission Date 03 JULY 2014 <br>Author: Douglas Onyango <br>Url: <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1157-out-of-region-use-of-afrinic-internet-number-resources">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/1157-out-of-region-use-of-afrinic-internet-number-resources</a> <br>Short url: <a href="http://goo.gl/L6exj7">http://goo.gl/L6exj7</a> <br><br>Text Below: <br><br>1) Summary of the Problem Being Addressed by this Policy Proposal <br><br>Currently, AFRINIC policies do not explicitly allow or disallow Out-Of-Region use of Internet number resources. This silence on an important facet of number resource management jeopardizes administration by leaving staff to arbitrarily decide how to handle Out-Of-Region requests. The imminent exhaustion of IPv4 aggravates the situation because it is anticipated that organizations from other regions will have more incentive to exploit this and any other loophole in AFRINIC polices to acquire resources for sale or use outside the region - a practice that is not in AFRINIC's best interests. <br><br><br>2) Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem <br><br>This policy allows up to 40% of Internet number resources in use by a member to be outside the region. It also tries to be a disincentive for organizations from other regions that want to acquire resources from AFRINIC for use in ways that are not in line with AFRINIC's best interests. <br><br>For the avoidance of doubt, the author does not seek to prolong the lifespan of IPv4 with this proposal but rather, to ensure that number resources allocated/assigned by AFRINIC are used by legitimate members from the service region to support their network operations, regardless of physical location. <br><br><br>3) Proposal <br><br>a. Upon ratification of this proposal, out-of-region use of AFRINIC's number resources shall be permitted as long it is preceded by use within the region. <br><br>b. Notwithstanding (3.a), the number resources used outside the region at any given point in time shall not exceed 40% of the total space in use by a member. Total space in use shall be calculated as follows: if x be the allocation/assignment size; and x-y the amount of space in use at time z, then 40% of (x-y) shall be the ceiling). <br><br>c. AFRINIC staff shall at their discretion, and using whatever means are available, assess compliance with 3.a/b. <br><br>d. This proposal shall forthwith be part of the acceptable use policy for Internet numbers any breaches shall be dealt with in accordance with the RSA other AFRINIC policies. <br><br>e. This policy shall not be applied in mutual exclusion, but rather complement already existing policies and other eligibility criteria prescribed by AFRINIC. <br><br>f. This policy shall apply to past, present and future allocations/assignments made by AFRINIC. <br><br>g. This policy shall remain in effect until: <br><br>1. It is mooted by another policy or it is superseded by a board resolution. <br><br>2. Until section 3.8 of the IPv4 Soft-landing Policy kicks in. (Use of IPv4 space from the last /8 outside the region shall be only to facilitate connectivity back to the region). <br>History <br>Previous Versions <br><br>03/07/2014: Version AFPUB-2014-GEN-001-DRAFT-01 posted to the mailing list. <br><br>Useful urls: <br><br>Policy proposals: <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals</a> <br>About the policy development process: <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/pdwg">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/pdwg</a> <br><br><br><br>Regards <br>--- <br><br>Seun Ojedeji & Adam Nelson <br>PDWG Co-Chairs <br><br><br>_______________________________________________ <br>rpd mailing list <br><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</a> <br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________ <br>rpd mailing list <br><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a> <br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</a> <br><br>_______________________________________________<br>rpd mailing list<br><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd<br></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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