<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">Hello Kofi,<br><br>On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:30 AM, Kofi ansa akufo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kofi.ansa@gmail.com" target="_blank">kofi.ansa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello All<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
It seems for some reason I have missed out on the mail-lists (both
members-discuss and rpd) discussions. Perhaps been blocked from the
lists due to criticism.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Don't think so because i am receiving this mail through the list. Besides, i don't see why such will be done. Nevertheless it could be worth exploring if you think otherwise.<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><snip> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
What I am driving at is to stop drafting "Policies" that will stop
prospective business to get our internet resources</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Can you define prospective business in this context? is it a business that intends to use the resources outside of this region OR a business that intends to use it in this region?<br>
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> but rather consider
policies that will enable the continent take advantage of the huge
backbone capacity to improve infrastructure and education. Policies
that will indirectly spark collaborations to address problems such as
NOT having enough, cheap and reliable POWER to make new emerging
businesses such as data centers to flourish in our region. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Me thinks this is what we all have been alluding to...generally creating policies that improves development in our region.<br>
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">Those are
the major consumers of internet resources in the other regions.<br>
<br>
"What is the use of a father holding on to funds whilst his kids stay
at home not going to school - whilst he ignorantly keeps on telling
everyone he is saving for their future welfare" - AFRINIC's struggle
to remain as a "relevant" not-for-profit organization will be in vain
if we dont adapt an open approach to collaborate to resolve the
issues.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Do you have a suggestion on other open approach to collaborating apart from the rpd list and public policy meeting?<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> The organization even faces more challenges especially when it
is left at the mercy of few people who are not open to criticism and
seek to rather coverup issues rather than address them objectively.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not sure i got this part, are we still talking about proper management of our IP resource? <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<br>
IPv4 will inevitably be exhausted so the question is NOT WHAT but How
is AfriNIC trainings (especially IPv6) impacting on the adoption of
the larger address space by our community members. How many training
sessions have been conducted in the past 3 years and how many service
provider attendants at these sessions have moved on to deploy v6 on
their network? How many of the service providers and carriers who are
members of the community have deployed native v6? What are the
challenges they face - is it financial? is it technical?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There is a saying that you can take a horse to the river but you can't force it to drink. Me and you are all concerned that ISPs are not deploying/integrating v6 at a desired rate, however me and you also know that there is a limit of enforcement that the RIR can do. Nevertheless, i agree that it may be good to explore the possible barriers. Although at this point, i doubt its on technical expertise reason.<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<br>
We should stop hiding behind "you can force a horse to the river but
you cant force it to drink"</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wow! i had just used this proverb up there ;)<br> <br></div><snip><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">I believe the management structure needs to be reviewed right
from the top in the organisation - "heads must roll" - if necessary.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This will be up to the AFRINIC members/board to determine. Nevertheless if the larger PDWG thinks some part of the policy is not being adhered to, it will be good to hear those specifics. <br>
<br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
K.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 18 June 2014 22:58, Adiel Akplogan <<a href="mailto:adiel@afrinic.net">adiel@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> [I think that the discussion has taken a path which now need it to be moved to the rpd list]<br>
><br>
> On Jun 18, 2014, at 17:13 PM, Douglas Onyango <<a href="mailto:ondouglas@gmail.com">ondouglas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> On 18 June 2014 12:02, Adiel Akplogan <<a href="mailto:adiel@afrinic.net">adiel@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> In this discussion I don't think the real challenge is about organisations that already have a well established footprint in the region trying to expend their network out of Africa, but rather about how far an IP Analyst can go using his/her own judgment in cases where a company (new or not) recently decide to enter the IP service business/market and is requesting resources that will obviously be used in majority (up to 5%-90% as we already seen) outside of the region.<br>
>><br>
>> I agree with the problem description. I have said the same thing in a<br>
>> previous email and also mentioned that the policy I am drafting will<br>
>> strike a balance between the two interests.<br>
><br>
> Good to hear this.<br>
><br>
> - a.<br>
><br>
><br>
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