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<div>Hi Nii, </div>
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<div>Perhaps I misread you, but where I was disagreeing was the fact that the focus should be merely on policy issues, when I think at this point the corporate governance issues are just as, if not more, critical.</div>
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<div>Particularly since Afrinic's instance on certain things is actually decreasing the numbers of potential active voting members in the forthcoming election.</div>
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<div>Thanks</div>
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<div>Andrew</div>
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-------- Original message --------<br>
From: Nii Narku Quaynor <br>
Date:16/05/2014 21:52 (GMT+03:00) <br>
To: Andrew Alston <br>
Cc: Andrew Alston , AfriNIC Discuss , rpd <br>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Discussion about e-voting <br>
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<div class="PlainText">Andrew,<br>
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Huh, what exactly did you disagree with? <br>
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I wanted us to hear from board and you want same;-) I also thought hearing from legal would help. I never said CEO should not say anymore
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Perhaps we should not be disagreeing <br>
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Nii<br>
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> On May 16, 2014, at 15:48, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Nii,<br>
> <br>
> I actually have to disagree with you here. I view these as critical<br>
> issues that need to be addressed, and the only time this community gets to<br>
> interact directly with the board and where the board can properly address<br>
> these concerns is at the meetings, one of which is coming up. Further<br>
> more, the identification document issue is preventing people from<br>
> registering to electronically vote (I know several people who have point<br>
> blank refused to register for e-voting over security concerns about those<br>
> ID documents), and this has a direct impact on the elections coming up in<br>
> Djibouti.<br>
> <br>
> As such, I believe that we need as members to hear directly from the CEO<br>
> or the Board on these issues BEFORE Djibouti.<br>
> <br>
> Alternatively, if these issues cannot be addressed before/in Djibouti, and<br>
> if there is insufficient time to deal with these issues now, perhaps it is<br>
> time to see if there is sufficient member support to invoke clause 7.6<br>
> viii of the bylaws?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks<br>
> <br>
> Andrew<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>> On 5/16/14, 5:34 PM, "Nii Narku Quaynor" <quaynor@ghana.com> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Hi,<br>
>> <br>
>> Andrew's concerns are relevant. After having read from CEO perhaps a word<br>
>> from Afrinic lawyer and Board would help<br>
>> <br>
>> However, with only few weeks to Djibouti we might focus on policy related<br>
>> matters to advantage<br>
>> <br>
>> Best regards<br>
>> Nii<br>
>> <br>
>>> On May 15, 2014, at 21:04, Andrew Alston<br>
>>> <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Hi All,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Let me start this email by saying I do not know the details of this<br>
>>> case,<br>
>>> nor do I know the individuals involved.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> That being said, this exchange of emails has raised some very<br>
>>> interesting<br>
>>> questions that I feel AfriNIC needs to answer. Let it be stated very<br>
>>> clearly that I am not taking any sides here but the situation referred<br>
>>> to<br>
>>> in the previous emails does have impact on the entire African community,<br>
>>> since there seems to be a large amount of space that has walked off the<br>
>>> continent. So, here goes with the questions.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> 1.) I have been repeatedly informed that large allocations are checked<br>
>>> and<br>
>>> signed off by the board, based on what is said here, is AfriNIC<br>
>>> admitting<br>
>>> that the board failed in the checks which they have very plainly stated<br>
>>> are done on large allocations<br>
>>> <br>
>>> 2.) Raised from an earlier point about AfriNIC requesting ID documents<br>
>>> for<br>
>>> certificates in order to electronically vote. Considering that (as<br>
>>> stated<br>
>>> in previous emails), AfriNIC does not require such documentation for any<br>
>>> other transactions, and considering that AfriNIC has not given the<br>
>>> community ANY information about the data storage and security, and in<br>
>>> addition the fact that the certificates are issued to individuals, and<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> ID documents are issued to AfriNIC by individuals with absolutely no<br>
>>> confidentiality agreements or NDA¹s in place (effectively meaning that<br>
>>> should the documents get leaked, there is absolutely no recourse against<br>
>>> AfriNIC), this situation raises some VERY serious concerns.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Irrespective of the facts or the rights and wrongs of this case, what<br>
>>> AfriNIC is effectively saying here is, we had an individual that broke<br>
>>> the<br>
>>> rules, bypassed our checks and balances, hoodwinked the board that had<br>
>>> to<br>
>>> sign off the allocation and effectively committed a criminal offence.<br>
>>> In<br>
>>> the same breath, they are saying, give us documents which we will not<br>
>>> state how we are storing, how we are going to use, and with no<br>
>>> guarantees<br>
>>> of confidentiality. On a continent with such rife identity fraud and<br>
>>> identity theftŠ let me be bluntŠ this REALLY scares me!<br>
>>> <br>
>>> 3.) Considering that AfriNIC has in documented cases requested access to<br>
>>> members equipment, and such requests have come from members of the IP<br>
>>> evaluation team, and such access has in certain cases been granted (in<br>
>>> one<br>
>>> case I know of by someone who was not really authorised to grant such<br>
>>> access), can AfriNIC comment on how many members have granted them<br>
>>> access<br>
>>> to their equipment, and what did AfriNIC do to safe guard any data<br>
>>> pulled<br>
>>> from that equipment.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Irrespective of all the facts of the case at hand, right now, I can only<br>
>>> say that the situation raises very serious questions about the checks<br>
>>> and<br>
>>> balances in place and the security mechanisms in place, and I really<br>
>>> feel<br>
>>> that the membership base should be demanding some very concrete answers<br>
>>> and reassurances.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Andrew<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>>> On 5/15/14, 6:36 PM, "Adiel Akplogan" <adiel@afrinic.net> wrote:<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Hello Kofi,<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Now, as I was expecting your engagement with this list to evolve into<br>
>>>> this very specific case that you have also alluded to on other lists<br>
>>>> before, I think the community deserve some further explanation of who<br>
>>>> you<br>
>>>> are and what all this is about. This specific case is also connected<br>
>>>> to a<br>
>>>> complain that has been field for investigation with local and<br>
>>>> international law enforcement for possible link to criminal activities.<br>
>>>> That is on the way and there are many details that we can not reveal<br>
>>>> here<br>
>>>> but in which you have been identified by the police as one suspect.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> On May 15, 2014, at 17:25 PM, Kofi ansa akufo <kofi.ansa@gmail.com><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Yes there are many specific cases I need the community to take a close<br>
>>>>> look. Unfortunately as a former resource evaluation manager I am bound<br>
>>>>> by NDA by AFRINIC.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> I site one specific case which applicant has brought to my attention<br>
>>>>> which I need the community's support.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Scenario: A prospective member applies to be a resourced member of<br>
>>>>> AFRINIC. His application gets approved after COMPLYING with policy.<br>
>>>>> AFRINIC billing department issues two invoices namely i.) Initial<br>
>>>>> Setup<br>
>>>>> Fees $4000 and ii.) Annual Membership Fees $12,800 as well as<br>
>>>>> Registration Service Agreement (RSA). There are NO payment deadlines<br>
>>>>> on<br>
>>>>> both invoices neither does any staff member of AFRINIC communicate<br>
>>>>> such<br>
>>>>> to applicant.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> You forgot to mention that it was YOU Kofi, as then staff of AFRINIC<br>
>>>> and<br>
>>>> IP Analyst who has evaluated this very specific application, and this,<br>
>>>> in<br>
>>>> an expedite way during the last days of your notice period. We later<br>
>>>> understood that you had a clear conflict of interest in this<br>
>>>> application<br>
>>>> as it doesn¹t take long after you left the organisation that you start<br>
>>>> inquiring about the case and not long after be appointed by this same<br>
>>>> applicant as their consultant to represent them for the application.<br>
>>>> What<br>
>>>> do you think about that?<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> We have carefully reviewed this specific case internally and noticed<br>
>>>> how<br>
>>>> that conflict of interest has played in the way you even handled the<br>
>>>> evaluation.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> Nevertheless the applicant proceeds to sign the RSA which outlines a<br>
>>>>> contractual agreement between AFRINIC and the applicant. Applicant<br>
>>>>> further proceeds to make payment of initial setup fees of $4000 and<br>
>>>>> request for annual membership fees to be paid in parts due to recent<br>
>>>>> Forex transfer restrictions in country of operation. AFRINIC denies<br>
>>>>> the<br>
>>>>> request for payment in parts although they allow that in certain cases<br>
>>>>> as stated on their website.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> As ex-IP analyst at AFRINIC you should better know the internal policy<br>
>>>> use to approve split membership fees payment (when it accepted and when<br>
>>>> it is not). Seems like your 12 months working at AFRINIC has not given<br>
>>>> you enough knowledge of our internal process as you seems to be<br>
>>>> claiming<br>
>>>> and selling it to all your new "customer(s)".<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> The applicant request an invoice update due to elapsed time (2 months)<br>
>>>>> and AFRINIC never responds to the request.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> AFRINIC staff respond to member on the 89th day of a so called "90<br>
>>>>> days" period in which application needs to be finalized. This 90 days<br>
>>>>> is<br>
>>>>> not published anywhere in policy, website or communicated to applicant<br>
>>>>> during the application process. Nevertheless again the applicant<br>
>>>>> responds that they are awaiting invoice update before payment.<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> AFRINIC staff finally respond that the application has expired<br>
>>>>> contrary<br>
>>>>> to what is defined in the executed RSA and further tell applicant the<br>
>>>>> initial setup fees of $4000 paid is non-refundable and that applicant<br>
>>>>> needs to put in a new application.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Well we have thoroughly reviewed the whole process of this specific<br>
>>>> application and a communication will reach the applicant soon (as you<br>
>>>> are<br>
>>>> their appointed consultant you should see a copy).<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> These are some of the kinds of frustration applicants face with<br>
>>>>> certain<br>
>>>>> staff members who refuse to stick to policies as well as contractual<br>
>>>>> agreements.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> You are completely misrepresenting the case and of course some members<br>
>>>> will be frustrated if instead of being honest and straight, they try to<br>
>>>> play the system and find themselves cornered by the Hostmaster team.<br>
>>>> And<br>
>>>> you as Ex-IP analyst trying to collude with such people who are trying<br>
>>>> to<br>
>>>> abuse the system is even worse and I think the community should be<br>
>>>> aware<br>
>>>> of such behaviour. This unfortunately explain why the team has became<br>
>>>> more and more demanding for each application. This unfortunately impact<br>
>>>> genuine applicants. But with people like you and alike around we will<br>
>>>> have no choice.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> All that is needed in such a situation for AFRINIC team is to reissue<br>
>>>>> an updated invoice and enquire if the has been any changes in the<br>
>>>>> applicants IP resources requirement. If there has been any changes<br>
>>>>> request applicant to update IP address plan but NOT to tell the<br>
>>>>> applicant to resubmit a whole new application again when applicant was<br>
>>>>> not notified of any deadlines during application.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Too much confusion from your side about the process. Proof that you<br>
>>>> have<br>
>>>> not even learn anything while working here beside trying to understand<br>
>>>> how to play the system from inside.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> So is this specific case justified for fellow community members to<br>
>>>>> rally behind and knock on the doors of the CEO and AFRINIC to ask why<br>
>>>>> the consequence of inefficiency on the part of certain staff and<br>
>>>>> procedures in AFRINIC should be borne by a member :)<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> That is a distraction tactic, diverting the attention of the community<br>
>>>> elsewhere so you and you allies get away with your maneuver? AFRINIC is<br>
>>>> an organisation that is based on honesty and you can not full a whole<br>
>>>> community.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> - a.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>>> On May 15, 2014 2:49 PM, "Seun Ojedeji" <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> Hello Kofi,<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Let me say a few personal words below<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Kofi ansa akufo <kofi.ansa@gmail.com><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> <snip><br>
>>>>> I draw typical examples below;<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> 1. The core activity of AFRINIC is managing internet resources for the<br>
>>>>> Region. What is seen now is more or less a passive approach to<br>
>>>>> evaluation of prospective members for resources. AFRINIC staff makes<br>
>>>>> it<br>
>>>>> difficult to get resources<br>
>>>>> <br>
>>>>> Hmm...maybe we should say the community makes it difficult,<br>
>>>>> considering<br>
>>>>> that staff will only follow community developed policy to allocate<br>
>>>>> resources. Nevertheless i am not even sure that difficult is the right<br>
>>>>> word to use here. Perhaps if you have specific concerns of scenarios<br>
>>>>> where you meet all the requirement and it still seem difficult to get<br>
>>>>> the resource, then you could share with the community and we can go<br>
>>>>> banging on the doors of staff with placard ;-)<br>
>>>>> YET when resources are granted there is little or no follow up<br>
>>>>> processes to chec<br>
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