<div dir="ltr">Using Saul's experience, should this "policy" go to PDP?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">______________________<br>Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya.<br><a href="http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target="_blank">twitter.com/lordmwesh</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 20 February 2014 09:43, Saul Stein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za" target="_blank">saul@enetworks.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-ZA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I have had a different but similar problem in the past:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">We opened a pop in another region, not connected to our existing infrastructure, so it has its own AS. Since we hadn’t used out 75% IP allocation, we were not able to get IP space for this region (no problem with additional AS number). I didn’t go into it in depth, but guess it fell foul partially to this policy.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The guys at AFRINIC all understood the problem, but due to “policy”, the only way around was to join again and let the other region be a second AFRINIC member at additional cost.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Seun Ojedeji<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 February 2014 09:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Alston<br><b>Cc:</b> rpd</span></p><div class=""><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] Merges/Acquisitions/Closures document<u></u><u></u></div><p></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></p><p>Hello Andrew,<u></u><u></u></p><div><div class="h5"><p>On 19 Feb 2014 16:49, "Andrew Alston" <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>> Hi McTim,<br>><br>> See this is my question. If this IS a set of procedures, then things it lacks clarity on either need more process, or policy.<br>><br>> An example (which I assume that up till now would be dealt with under this policy):<br>
><br>> A holding company owns 8 op-co’s. Those entities continue to exist, but the holding companies wishes to merge all their resources into the holding company to create a single administrative entity which then sub-assigns to its op-co’s. Now, technically this is not a merger nor an acquisition, and the IP space will continue to be USED by the entities that it was assigned to and for the same purpose. However, it is merged into the holding the company so that there is ONE member and ONE administrative entity.<br>
><br>> Is a situation like that covered under this document?<u></u><u></u></p><p>The way I understand the document, I think your scenario is not applicable as the merger referred on the guideline is based on entities(organisations) and not on resource OR better put, a merger needs to happen at organisation level before resource update can be considered (2.1..... Following this policy guideline, AFRINIC must ensure that for each merger and/or takeover, the resulting organization is planning to continue using the allocated/assigned number resources for the original criteria under which these resources were issued.....). <u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Cheers<br>Disclaimer: My individual view (not Co-chairs')<br>sent from Google nexus 4<br>kindly excuse brevity and typos.<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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