<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jun 21, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:alston.networks@gmail.com">alston.networks@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I believe the intention for Universities that already have resources would be to include their current space in the multiplier.</div><div><br></div><div>So, let us look at an institution that has 20 thousand combined staff and students, and is already sitting on a /16 worth of space.</div><div><br></div><div>The combined allocation they would qualify for under this policy is 20 * 5 = 100k IP addresses.</div><div><br></div><div>Since they already have a /16 (64k ip addresses), they would be able to under the policy qualify automatically for 36k more IP addresses subject to the normal fees associated with additional applications.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I would seriously suggest that we allow that 36K (which is more than 32K) to be rounded up to the next bit (64K) so that they would receive an additional /16 instead of a /17 + a /20. I realize this is 28K extra addresses, but I think that is a reasonable tradeoff vs. a global routing table slot.</div><div><br></div><div>(Imagine the far more pathological case where someone qualifies for an additional 63K addresses. In such a case, they would receive an additional /17+ /18 + /19 + /20 + /21 + /22. In this case, you would be saving only 1024 addresses and you would be consuming 5 extra routing table slots.)</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); "><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday 21 June 2013 10:10 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Bope Domilongo Christian <<a href="mailto:christianbope@gmail.com">christianbope@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> rpd <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>>, Alan Barrett <<a href="mailto:apb@cequrux.com">apb@cequrux.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] PDP discussions<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hello Chris,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Bope Domilongo Christian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:christianbope@gmail.com" target="_blank">christianbope@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" type="cite"><div dir="ltr">According to Afrinic mission which is to serve the African region equitably and equally. I would like to request to Afrinic to provide the current IPV4 allow to all African Universities regionally. My worry is Afrinic give all IPv4 remaining to the same Universities and when other will came they will be not IPv4 and they will raised the question of equally distribution of IP in the education sectors in Africa and they will be frustrated. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="h5"><br></div></div></blockquote><div>Speaking as able self (ofcourse not as co-chair as handing-over has not happened :)<br><br></div><div>I identify your fear, however i believe that we have 2 scenarios here:<br><br></div><div><b>First Scenario</b><br></div><div>A university who already have resources and want to request for more based on the new policy.<br></div><div>For this customer, i believe a justification of use of the resources they currently have will be required before such new request will be considered by AFRINIC officials (if this is not the case, then i wish to be clarified on what is). Also it will be good to check whether the resource they initially have did not indeed meet their ratio needs as per the new policy.<br><b><br></b></div><div><b>Second Scenario</b><br></div><div>A university who is just applying for resource for the first time:<br></div><div>This is where the advantage of the new policy will be most applicable and yes i agree that some institutions in some countries may be fast enough to put in their requests which could make the IP space more prominent in one region than the other....perhaps it may be worth checking how some level of fairness in distribution of the resource across the continent can be achieved. However i think we still have to consider that you won't deny an institution assignment just because there has been several request from the particular region, especially if the institution meets the requirement for assignment. <br><br>Perhaps its time for each country rep to do their homework with their respective institutions ;)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards<br></div><div>- <br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" type="cite"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Alan Barrett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apb@cequrux.com" target="_blank">apb@cequrux.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" type="cite">
On Thu, 20 Jun 2013, Alan Barrett wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" type="cite">
The following policy proposals acheieved rough consensus [...]<br></blockquote><div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" type="cite">
* Academic IPv4 Allocation<br>
AFPUB-2013-GEN-001-DRAFT-02<br>
<<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/842-academic-ipv4-allocation-afpub-2013-gen-001-draft-02-under-discussion" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/<u></u>community/policy-development/<u></u>policy-proposals/842-academic-<u></u>ipv4-allocation-afpub-2013-<u></u>gen-001-draft-02-under-<u></u>discussion</a>><br></blockquote><br></div>
I am sorry, I forgot to mention some changes.<br><br>
1. The staff analysis pointed out that the proposal used<br>
two terms "Academic Institution" and "Higher Education<br>
Institution". The proposal will be modified to use a single<br>
term consistently.<br><br>
2. Some people at the meeting said that some organisations might<br>
not want as many IPv4 addresses as are allowed by this<br>
proposal. The proposal will be modified to make it clear that<br>
an organisation may apply for fewer addresses than the 5:1<br>
ratio would allow.<br><br>
Consensus at the meeting was that the proposal, duly modified to address the above two points, should go to last call.<div><br><br>
--apb (Alan Barrett)<br>
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