<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In the US, the term "aggravated illegal re-entry after deportation" can mean as little as:<div><br></div><div>1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Entered the country.</div><div>2.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Overstayed visa (maybe even accidentally and maybe even with his visa having</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>been shortened without notice in some cases)</div><div>3.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Was deported for 2</div><div>4.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Sorted out all the paperwork and got another visa approval.</div><div>5.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Failed to dot some I or cross some T on the second visa.</div><div>6.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Entered the country, including clearing customs and immigration and had no idea anything</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>was wrong.</div><div>7.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Got picked up later when some database caught the error that occurred in step 5.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, the above cases have occurred. The current attitude of US Immigration is very messed up. US immigration policy and law is a maze of twisty little passages all different and it is almost impossible to be in full compliance even if you are a US Citizen.</div><div><br></div><div>As such, I would not hold such a conviction against someone unless I knew a whole lot more about the case than is available from the documentation you provided.</div><div><br></div><div>There is a very big difference between making multiple errors navigating a complex process designed to create road-blocks and prevent successful completion vs. actually killing someone.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, as someone else pointed out, this is very off-topic for RPD. I won't respond further on list. If you wish to continue the discussion off-list, I am happy to do so.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:16 PM, "deepak.mehta" <<a href="mailto:deepak.mehta@zoho.com">deepak.mehta@zoho.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;">I also don't know the particulars of this situation.<br><br>But the nature of offense is "aggravated illegal re-entry after deportation"<br><br>Why not employ someone convicted for a first degree murder at a RIR ?<br><br>I guess he's innocent in africa.<br><br>dm<br><div id="1"><br>---- On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:02:04 -0700 <b>Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>></b> wrote ---- <br></div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid #0000FF; padding-left: 6px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">I don't know the particulars of this situation.<div><br></div><div>However, I would like to point out that it is entirely possible to get a conviction such as the one described based on nothing more than a clerical error or the failure to fill out all of the exactly correct forms at exactly the right time in exactly the right manner, which is no easy task and in no way straight forward.</div><div><br></div><div>I will also point out that it is unlikely if this was a case of much more than a clerical error that the defendant would have been released to probation with a $100 fine. The 10 month sentence is very likely to cover the time he spent waiting in prison for his case to come to a resolution. He may not have actually served any additional time in prison and that is a common way to structure these plea bargains.</div><div><br></div><div>I am ashamed to admit it, but, yes, my government will lock someone up for ten months over a clerical error and will push very hard for a plea bargain of this nature in order to avoid liability. They are especially good at doing this in order to take advantage of non-citizens.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 18, 2013, at 11:42 AM, deepak.mehta <<a href="mailto:deepak.mehta@zoho.com" target="_blank">deepak.mehta@zoho.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br>We, LIR members, pays AfriNIC thousand of dollars as yearly membership fee which is used to renumerate a convicted criminal.<br><br>This is outrageous.<br><br><a href="http://goo.gl/0fn1C" target="_blank">http://goo.gl/0fn1C</a><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>rpd mailing list<br><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net" target="_blank">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>