<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Maina Noah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mainanoa@gmail.com" target="_blank">mainanoa@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On 4 February 2013 11:05, Jackson Muthili <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">+1<br>
Andrew Aston assumption apply to student from very rich family only in<br>
SA. Even in SA student from 80% of economy not considered rich can not<br>
afford 5 IP device.<br>
<br></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Well without having to repeat what has been said in many way on the list...i beg to say that i disagree with you and i can tell you that an average student at the moment make do with 3 IPs (1or 2 phones a laptop &or notebook). Now we consider system own devices(in labs, offices, training rooms, etc) and guest devices which will at least occupy the remaining 2 IP space <br>
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This policy does not represent reality of university outside SA.</blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Are you kidding me...in the country where i come from...we buy lots of fancy stuffs (even though 80% of the features are not utilized). I can tell you that it indeed represents the reality by considering how a university population settings really looks like. <br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><div></div></div><div>Jackson, Indeed, which is why the community as a whole needs to be more realistic with the reality on the ground at various universities hence my argument which i based sorely on real facts from one Top university here and i have note visited the other small university's yet of which the situation could even be more negative. </div>
<div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Would you say because the university you visited does not have campus wide network then the policy should not fly? is it not better to be more than to be little remember the demand for IP will not reduce as time goes on...so it is a better plan. <br>
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I dont support it.<br>
<br></blockquote><div> I would support a 1:2 ratio as opposed to 1:5. </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Well think about it again....considering what i have written above.<br><br>Regards <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Jack<br>
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On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Maina Noah <<a href="mailto:mainanoa@gmail.com" target="_blank">mainanoa@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 3 February 2013 16:58, Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hello People<br>
>><br>
> Hi Seun,<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <<a href="mailto:el@lisse.na" target="_blank">el@lisse.na</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> I don't have issues with my iPhone, iPad, iPad mini, Mac Book Air, iMac,<br>
>>> eeePC, Ubunto server(s) or BlackBerry,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
><br>
> Right, this students either studies and works and has a good paycheck or his<br>
> parents are doing very very well.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Here is a sample of one person's gears, just to emphasis that 1:5 is being<br>
>> modest ;)<br>
>><br>
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> I have been quietly thinking through the communities 1:5 argument, but one<br>
> little but very important factor is being left out. The fact that NOT EVERY<br>
> STUDENT CAN AFFORD TO BUT ALL THOSE TOYS. I went to University of Dar es<br>
> salaam last week to just study the environment and internet usage at the<br>
> campus as my curiosity stemmed from this very 1:5 argument, and guess what,<br>
> most students can;t even afford to own Laptops. Funny thing is the % of<br>
> students who actually have the Steve Jobs toys are like 10% because they can<br>
> even afford them. The Private students only get School Fees from their<br>
> parents and those on Government loans can hardly afford a personal laptop.<br>
> Most of them share laptops haaah. On the issue of phones, there are no<br>
> campus wide wireless networks and thus most students with smartphones are<br>
> using 3G services from the Telecom companies.<br>
><br>
> This is a case for one specific HEI in Tanzania and now how about the rest<br>
> of the continents and in other countries. Let us be realistic and stop<br>
> assuming and basing our arguments on some few specific institutions and rich<br>
> students.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers!<br>
><br>
><br>
> My 2 cents,<br>
><br>
> Maina<br>
><br>
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