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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nii,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I have no problem with Universities submitting network diagrams or network information. I have a problem with it being evaluated and used to determine the University’s needs, when it patently obvious that you cannot judge IP utilization in any work just based on infrastructure (like wifi ap’s). To properly evaluate such network information requires people who are intimately familiar with the context of the institution and that is not realistic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rpd-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nii Narku Quaynor<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 28, 2013 4:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> Sunday Folayan<br><b>Cc:</b> rpd@afrinic.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AFRINIC-rpd] Academic IPv4 Allocation Policy Second Draft (AFPUB-2013-GEN-001-DRAFT-02)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>And the university does not have a network diagram? and implementing a network <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The information, referenced as at start, was about design options not about a 'network plan' being reviewed<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>These kinds of options and issues also apply to any network and may not be peculiar to universities. In the end you have a design and resource plan<br><br>Ok, fix it but a fix where <span class=apple-style-span>is needed. I wonder if a fix by policy is what's needed in this case</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>We are actually imposing constraints eg end-user category, now 5:1 expectation, etc</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 28, 2013, at 13:01, Sunday Folayan <<a href="mailto:sfolayan@gmail.com">sfolayan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 28/01/2013 10:06, Nii Narku Quaynor wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Thanks. What prevents a university from receiving a 10:1 via current policies<o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Justification, a la Network diagram!<br><br>Recall the thread from Andrew that started this all! <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2012/002553.html">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2012/002553.html</a><br><br>It is easy to justify 48 users connected to a 48 port switch, by proving/justifying the fact that you actually bought 1000 switches, so you can connect 48,000 or less users.<br><br>How do you do that with Wireless Access points? How many users per AP? etc? Not that easy like fixed infrastructure. This was the frustration with coming up with an acceptable justification which Andrew expressed and along the thread, which led to my challenging him that we fix it, instead of complaining.<br><br>Sunday.<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>