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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Seun,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>See comments inline<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>We are getting closer...however i think we have not yet arrived at the appropriate formula ;) I don't see the justification for the formula that have given need for the 0.5 for part time students. My argumenet is; whether the student is part time or not, whenver he/she comes on the network he get assigned a single (full IP) and so there would be no basis for reducing the actual number of part-time students to 50%. Actually as a matter of fact, there is the chance that part time students may even stay longer on the network than the full timers....due to the flexible timing schedule they may have. <br>Similarly i don't think adding full time to the employees will be applicable....some lecturers are on contract basis, and so cannot be refeered to as full timers. In view of all this, i am reccommending a re-wording as follows<br> <br>.....a formula of full time students + employees + on site part time students<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Agreed on this, I think before we make another modification though I’d like to hear more views from the list as this seems to be the most controversial point here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3.4) For the purposes of this policy, the roll-out of IPv6 can only be considered to be a true IPv6 roll-out <b>PLAN</b>, if IPv6 is extended to the edge of the network, beyond just the core/server infrastructure.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Agreed on this point, no problem changing this to PLAN so long as we add something about the time frames attached to that plan. If an institution says they have a plan, but its 15 years away, it’s not going to help us. So that needs some discussion as well.</span> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3.6) While 3.4 defines a minimum accepted ratio for which the justification is clearly defined in 3.1, <b>applications based on a ratio as high as 10:1 shall be given due <span style='color:#000099'>consideration and should be approved</span> unless the justification for such increased ratio is believed by AfriNIC staff to be specious or fraudulent in nature.</b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>I am not sure about the "should be approved" part....perhaps it can read as thus:<br><br>...applications based on a ratio as high as 10:1 will be considered for approval by the Afrinic staff based on the justification provided by the applicant.<br> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t see an issue in changing this as suggested. So long as we don’t change the minimum standard with its low level of justification.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3.7) HEIs will be classified as End Users under this policy, on provision of a duly authorized letter from the institution management stating that address space allocated will not be used outside of the campus/academic environment.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I don't think there is a need for 3.7 since it is no longer a debate on whether HEIs is an End user or not.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Personally, while this line may be overkill, I would prefer to leave it in since it avoids any possibility of argument later. It does not actually hurt to have it specifically defined. Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>3.9) Since any HEI that has a large base of registered students and full time staff, has to, by the very nature of their function, have <b><span style='color:#000099;background:white'>networking</span></b><span style='color:#000099;background:white'> </span>equipment on campus, this policy dispenses for the need for a HEI to provide <b>detailed</b> proof of <b><span style='color:#000099'>the</span></b> equipment and infrastructure.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>This one I have more issues with. I removed the need for proof here to avoid ANY subjective discussion. The moment we change the wording as suggested, we get back into the same subjective nature of things we sit with at the moment. I believe strongly that any HEI that has a healthy student base and staff compliment in the modern world will by definition have equipment to use the address space on, or at the very least, be in the process of expanding to such equipment. The moment we change the wording to the suggested text, it reintroduces subjectivity and creates ambiguity that could later become cause of arguments between AfriNIC and the institutions. Hence, I would request that this change NOT happen, but again, I’m open to hearing more community thought on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>