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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Andrew,<br>
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The Board does not meet on the Policy mailing list :)<br>
<br>
I would be surprised if Board members comment as Board members. We
have read from Mark and Badru, but these were constructive
comments made by them as themselves, not as Board members.<br>
<br>
I believe the proper procedure is that the Staff would make a
summary of what the issues are, and present to the Board at their
next f2f or teleconference, which ever comes first. The Staff have
been responsive on queries that you raised, and I trust they will
do the needful.<br>
<br>
Cheers.<br>
<br>
Sunday.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 23/07/2012 18:17, Andrew Alston wrote:<br>
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Hi Nii,
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<div>Oh believe me, I am doing that, but fixing that will still
not fix the root cause, the root cause is that there seems to
be, from this list, a clear indication from the community that
the fee structure needs review, and at current, there is still
no voice from the board indicating that such will be done, or
how it will be reviewed (I am not looking for final numbers
here, nor am I trying to set them). Therefore, I figure that
analyzing the figures and the financials and giving the
community a chance to take a constructive look at where their
money is going and how things are proportioned out is a good
thing to do. Even if this is only discussed at the AGM, the
discussion here will feed into that discussion, and considering
the time frames at an AGM where we have only a few hours to look
at what are complex financials, since they are not typically
posted well in advance of the meeting, can only be useful</div>
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<div>Andrew</div>
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<div>On 23 Jul 2012, at 3:29 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor wrote:</div>
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<div>Andrew,</div>
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<div>Why not focus on agreeing on LIR and end-user?</div>
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<div>Nii<br>
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On Jul 23, 2012, at 13:12, Andrew Alston <<a
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<div>No, the attempt was not necessarily to set fees,
the attempt was to analyse the gap between PIR and LIR
fees and see if they are disproportionate in the
communities view, so that we can request the board to
look at this and make an adjustment with a well
thought out motivation for the request for review.
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<div>I believe that if we are going to ask the board
for a fee adjustment we need to tell them as a
community how we view this, and give them solid
reasons for it, and we cannot do that without
discussion and information, The final numbers are
the boards to decide, but direction from the
community is just as important.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Andrew</div>
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<div>On 23 Jul 2012, at 2:59 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor
wrote:</div>
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<div>Board sets fees; we discuss policy. The
note was an attempt to set fees?<br>
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On Jul 23, 2012, at 12:48, Jackson Muthili
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wrote:<br>
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2012 at 3:04 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor <span
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<div>Perhaps the board has heard
loud and clearly. We might at this
point leave the board to do their
job ?<br>
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<div><b>What is the board job in context
of this discussion?</b></div>
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<div><b>Cheers</b></div>
<div><b>JM</b></div>
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On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:40, Andrew
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<div>Hi Guys,
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<div>Let me just state, that I
do not think there would be
any problem to potentially
raising the fees for an end
user on an annual basis. For
example, if you went from
$100/$200 a year to even $1000
a year, its still in the
reasonable range. I would
argue that the difference
between LIR and End User
though is currently excessive.
If we raised the end user
fees and dropped the LIR fees
to perhaps make a more
inclusive fee structure, maybe
thats the answer.</div>
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<div>That is one of the reasons
why I have asked AfriNIC for
the statistics in a previous
email, so that we can do a
proper analysis of where the
revenue that is required is
being generated from, and then
perhaps can discuss how this
could be moved around to a way
that the community is happy
with.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Andrew</div>
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<div>On 23 Jul 2012, at 1:21
PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:</div>
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SF,<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at
11:21 AM, Sunday Folayan
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Perhaps you just
focused on the setup
costs. My statement
(Annual fee) stands.<br>
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<div>Yes you are right i
did looked at
something different as
i assumed there was
really no issue with
the current pricing
for the end-user. So i
was looking at the
pricing that
Institutions will be
paying if they were
now categorized as an
LIR.<br>
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From the structure
you reference, /24
PI should pay $100
annually. /16 is
also expected to pay
$100. It is >/16
to /14 that
progresses to $200.</div>
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I think $100/$200
annual payment is not
the biggest and
unbearable part of the
end-user's current
pricing :-)<br>
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