Hello Andrew,<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p class="MsoNormal">This policy attempts to address the problem that
Universities at current are treated as LIRs because of their having multiple
faculties, irrespective of the fact that IT is centrally managed at these
institutions.<span> </span>This in effect
disadvantages the Universities who are already under severe financial pressure
by forcing them to pay LIR fees for IP space used only within their own
institution.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At current the only way for a University to avoid being
classified as an LIR is to apply for a tiny block of address space for central
IT, which is then forced to NAT the entire institution through that block.<span></span></p></div></blockquote><div><br>I think i need a few clarification on this as while i was with University of Nigeria, Nsukka(UNN). We requested for allocation and i could remember the words used when Afrinic finally approved (they said they will allocate /16 prefix - Extra Large End-USer). We were referred to as Extra Large End-user, in this case i would think that space is large enough and normally should be classified as LIR. So if i may ask from what allocation exactly does Afrinic starts classifying institutional block request as LIR?<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span>This amounts to AfriNIC putting institutions
in a position where they are forced to utilize NAT, which is to their
disadvantage, if they do not wish to pay LIR fees.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></blockquote><div>With a /16 for a institution like UNN, i don't think NAT will be required. <br><br><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">[3.2] Where a university was connecting schools, or
affiliated institutions, the institution would still be classified as an LIR,
and assignment of PI space to such by a university would be prohibited</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">I think this part is not clear, why will assignment of PI space be prohibited? A scenario; again UNN which is multi-campus, the /16 were allocated was requested based on plan that it will be shared across the campuses. Does that make us a LIR? I think we are still an End user. Maybe the scenario you are painting is applicable with institution acting as RENs. In view of this, Perhaps 3.2 can then be edited as thus:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p style="color:rgb(0,153,0)" class="MsoNormal">[3.2(V1)] Where a institution "Acting as a REN" was connecting schools, or
affiliated institutions, the "REN acting institution" would still be classified as an LIR,
and assignment of PI space to such by a connecting university would be prohibited</p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">[3.3] Where a university had an autonomous faculty that was
independent of central IT, the faculty themselves would have to apply for
membership and PI space, or alternatively the university would have to apply
for LIR status.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal">I don't think there is need for this, such faculty should ask for allocation from the "IT department" space, the IT department is not acting on his own, it is on behalf of the university and it is expected that when they made request its justification was based on the faculties and general campus users<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">[3.4] Under this policy, it is proposed that universities
would, as part of the application criteria for resources, have to acknowledge
in writing that they are not providing such resources to other autonomous
entities.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>This i think should be agreement signed by any other ISP if this is to be implemented(jokes). But in the real sense does it matter whether the university allocate part of her space to someone else or not?</span><br clear="all">
</p></div></div><br><br>Like the fact that i am seeing something about Institution though. Thanks :-)<br><br>Best Regards<br>-- <br>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><font color="#888888"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;font-family:garamond,serif">
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