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Sunday <br>
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We are now beyond cheers or tears for winners and losers but are
dealing with issues going forward. Fortunately or unfortunately I
was not in Gambia so I will never know what happened there. The
community deserves to know the accurate principles about its
operating environment including proxies and all. What is coming out
is some people are emotionally declaring the system of proxies as
the enemy yet it is just an instrument which the community should
manage. Lets understand what it is all about and decide how to
control it in the future. If the system was abused then let us close
the loopholes. This debate should no longer be construed be about
siding for or against a particular group of candidates in the last
election. Lets move on and debate issues objectively as Afrinic is
greater than individuals. <br>
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GS<br>
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On 22/05/2012 05:24 PM, Sunday Folayan wrote:
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<p>Gift, Walu, Adiel, McTim and all,</p>
<p>Thanks Adiel for the useful intervention and redirection. I am
typing with a big thumb on a small screen so ... torturous, I
can only summarize my thoughts.</p>
<p>I will add and remind us that:</p>
<p>1. Elections are not perfect. The best may not win, but who
best appeals to sentiments. </p>
<p>2. People vote for those they can follow, not those with the
brightest credentials. We must respect this.</p>
<p>3. A strong rejection of one well-known candidate in the ballot
may benefit another, even if its a relatively unknown candidate.</p>
<p>4. We must always allow the majority their way, but give the
minority their say. Counting to the last member is desirable but
unrealistic. </p>
<p>5. Members must get as much info, and be left to decide
according to their conscience.</p>
<p>6. The fight was proxy, single-cross and double cross in
gambia, but with e-voting, it may be trust anchor, key size or
internet bandwidth, so ...</p>
<p>7. The community will keep refining its rules and processes,
but those who lose elections must always be gracious in
conceding defeat.</p>
<p>8. There are zillion ways of serving the community. Let people
explore them.<br>
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<p>I think Gambia was historic in organization and rich in
meetings and trainings. Let us ack this and not glorify the
layer 9 issues.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
<p>SF.</p>
<blockquote type="cite">On 22 May 2012 14:40, "gift" <<a
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Hi McTim<br>
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Companies operate in terms of a Companies Act. In the case of
Afrinic the Companies Act of Mauritius 2001. The act prescribes
how companies operate as a minimum in many areas such as member
relations, appointment of management and directors and the type
nad conduct of company meetings. The proxies fall under
procedure and conduct of meetings. It is a statutory requirement
to hold an annual general meeting (face to face meeting). It is
mandatory to issue all members/shareholders with a notice for
the AGM and in the notice members who are entitled to attend are
advised of their option to appoint a proxy to attend and vote on
their behalf if they so wish. The proxy form is also availed
with details of the filing time table. So in essence as long as
there is need to hold a face to face meeting (AGM) there is no
way of doing away with proxies. I sense a general dislike for
proxies but we cant just wish them away. I can bet you even in
developed countries technology has not been able to knock out
statutory meetings and what ever goes with them such as proxies.
By the way proxies are just not to vote for elections but any
other resolutions. In practice even if a member is present they
can still appoint a proxy for voting purposes. At an AGM even
non members (observers) are allowed to attend and not vote. It
is very common to have syndicates of like minded members giving
their proxies to one person or the Chairman even if they are
present just to show solidarity and voting power.<br>
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Hope this helps.<br>
<br>
GS
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