<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Hallo Badru,<div><br></div><div>IMHO </div><div><br></div><div>I think the process for the policy;</div><div>"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 14px; "><strong>[GPP-IPv4-2009] Global Policy Proposal for the Allocation of IPv4 Blocks to Regional Internet Registries</strong><ul><li style="font-weight: normal; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 4px; margin-left: 0px; ">Summary: Mandatory return of space by RIRs into IANA reclamation pool, IANA reallocation to RIRs based upon need.</li><li style="font-weight: normal; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin-top: 2px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 4px; margin-left: 0px; ">Status: <em>This global proposal is “abandoned;” it cannot advance in its current state because the same version was not adopted at all five RIRs.</em></li></ul><div>My understanding is that it then seizes to be a global policy. At the RIR level it will be a regional policy in so far as </div><div>1. it can be implemented within the region </div><div>2. is addressing a situation within the control of the RIR</div><div>3. the community sees the policy as relevant enough for the region to implement it as a regional policy</div><div><br></div><div>What we need is once a global policy expires or is abandoned and we have approved it how do we handle it. I think the author/s need to put it back onto the list for discussion like they would if one was to propose an amendment to an existing approved policy. In this case, the proposed amendment being to withdraw the entire policy. At that point the community would make a decision to withdraw the policy altogether or adopt it for the region and if it is being adopted for the region, what changes would the community like to see in order for it to be relevant to the region. This the community has a way of dealing with proposals that start as global but are abandoned. </div><div><br></div><div>This is just my personal thinking of how I think the process should work and not the position of any of the various entities I represent.</div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Fiona</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></span><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px;color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">Could it be that if it is not accepted in all regions it ceases to be a<br>global policy and reverts to a regional policy. <br><br>Or do we need a policy to handle this situation ?? <br><br>maybe the policy should return to the PDP for review <br><br>how is this handled in other regions ?? <br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: rpd-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net] On Behalf<br>> Of McTim<br>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:22 PM<br>> To: Douglas Onyango<br>> Cc: rpd@afrinic.net<br>> Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] Call for policy proposals and/or issues on<br>AfriNIC<br>> PDP for AfriNIC-16<br>> <br>> Hi Douglas,<br>> <br>> On 2/21/12, Douglas Onyango <ondouglas@gmail.com> wrote:<br>> > Paulos et al,<br>> > I think there is a unique issue with the way our current PDP treats<br>> > global policies after they get "approved" in our region and fail in<br>> > other regions.<br>> ><br>> > (afrinic.net/docs/policies/AFPUB-2009-v4-002.htm) is a prime example<br>> > of what I am talking about. This Policy is marked "abandoned" on the<br>> > ASO website (aso.icann.org/global-policy-proposals), but continues to<br>> > have the status of "Approved" on the AfriNIC website.<br>> ><br>> <br>> Probably because we approved it? ;-)<br>> <br>> > I think that we should find away of resting these Global policies in a<br>> > way that conforms to the Global PDP<br>> ><br>> > A sample solution could be for the policy's status to change to<br>> > "Expired" or something else if the Global status of the policy move in<br>> > the "rejected" or "abandoned" direction.<br>> <br>> "something else" I think, as policy proposals expire if they are not<br>approved.<br>> <br>> <br>> So we need to find a word that means "approved in region but not globally<br>> accepted".<br>> <br>> I admit that word is not coming to mind immediately ;-/<br>> <br>> ><br>> > I haven't thought this through, but since you asked for suggestions<br>> > and the like, I thought i would start this discussion.<br>> <br>> <br>> Thanks!<br>> <br>> --<br>> Cheers,<br>> <br>> McTim<br>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route<br>> indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> rpd mailing list<br>> rpd@afrinic.net<br>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>rpd mailing list<br>rpd@afrinic.net<br>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd<br></blockquote><br></div></div></body></html>