<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Trevor Mwangi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:trevor.mwangi@gmail.com">trevor.mwangi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div class="im">On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Mark Elkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za" target="_blank">mje@posix.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><br>

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I'd personally be very dubious about anything bigger than a /14!!!<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>There have already been several 'large' allocations that should have caused you concern then (since 2010-->current)</div>


<div> </div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;color:rgb(51, 51, 51)"><table width="450" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.224.0.0/14" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.224.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/14</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">07-04-2010</td><td>Mauritius</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.128.0.0/14" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.128.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/14</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">11-11-2010</td><td>Morocco</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.132.0.0/14" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.132.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/14</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">15-12-2010</td><td>Egypt</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.136.0.0/14" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.136.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/14</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">22-12-2010</td><td>Kenya</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.140.0.0/14" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.140.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/14</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">29-12-2010</td><td>Algeria</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.192.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.192.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">08-03-2010</td><td>Egypt</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.200.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.200.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">28-05-2010</td><td>Algeria</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.160.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.160.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">14-07-2010</td><td>Egypt</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.168.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.168.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">22-09-2010</td><td>South Africa</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.176.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.176.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center"><a href="tel:13-10-2010" value="+13102010" target="_blank">13-10-2010</a></td><td>Kenya</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.96.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.96.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">30-11-2010</td><td>South Africa</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.104.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.104.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">10-03-2011</td><td>South Africa</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.120.0.0/13" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.120.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/13</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">05-04-2011</td><td>Egypt</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.64.0.0/12" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.64.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/12</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">19-03-2011</td><td>South Africa</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.0.0.0/11" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.0.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/11</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">03-05-2010</td><td>Tunisia</td></tr><tr style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(223, 208, 206);padding-left:4px">


<td><a href="http://www.afrinic.net/cgi-bin/whois?recursive=ON&searchtext=197.32.0.0/11" style="font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(239, 66, 34);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">197.32.0.0</a></td>


<td align="center">/11</td><td align="center">ipv4</td><td align="center">allocated</td><td align="center">17-05-2011</td><td>Egypt</td></tr></tbody></table></span></div><div class="im"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



Anyway - I have full trust in the AfriNIC staff.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>I expect the AfriNIC staff to adhere to the policies that are set.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>As do I, that has never been in question.  It is entirely our (PDWGs) responsibility to set a maximum allocation size.  Perhaps in hindsight, we should have done that.</div>

<div><br></div></div><br>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel<br>