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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000000>Hi McTim,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial>Thanks for your support.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left>>So this proposal will entirely replace this policy?</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial>yes, only when we reach the threshold value according to the following description of the proposal (as Dr.Didier said in his presentation)</FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Phase 1:</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">•<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr>IANA reserves N (/8) units to each RIR and set them out of the free pool. </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">•<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr>IANA Keeps applying the current allocation policy;</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">•<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr>Until the request for IPv4 from any RIR to IANA will compromise the remaining free pool of IANA according to the following formula:</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">X = IPv4 /8 units available before the last request.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">A = /8 units needed to fulfill the last request from an RIR.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">R = Number of RIRs recognized by ICANN.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">if R * N < = (X - A) -----------> <FONT color=#0000ff>Threshold value</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: Verdana; mso-fareast-font-family: Verdana"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">•<SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr>At this point phase 2 of the policy will be initiated…</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left>>I would have said "certain number" not "minimum number", as I can't parse what "minimum" means here.</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial>we can't say certain number; I'll give you an example for how this policy works assuming that N=5 as stated in the basic proposal:</FONT></DIV>
<P dir=ltr><FONT size=2><FONT size=3> </FONT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>Assume the remaining free pool for IANA = 26 (/8),</FONT></SPAN></P>
<DIV class=O dir=ltr style="mso-line-spacing: '100 20 0'; mso-margin-left-alt: 216; mso-char-wrap: 1; mso-kinsoku-overflow: 1" v:shape="_x0000_s1026"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>And an RIR requests for 2 (/8) IPv4 ; </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=O dir=ltr style="mso-line-spacing: '100 20 0'; mso-margin-left-alt: 216; mso-char-wrap: 1; mso-kinsoku-overflow: 1" v:shape="_x0000_s1026"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>Then IANA will allocate N = 5 for each RIR a</FONT></SPAN><FONT size=3><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>nd in addition allocate M=1 to the last </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>requesting RIR</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV class=O dir=ltr style="mso-line-spacing: '100 20 0'; mso-margin-left-alt: 216; mso-char-wrap: 1; mso-kinsoku-overflow: 1" v:shape="_x0000_s1026"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>So the total (/8) allocated for that RIR = 5 + 1 </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=O dir=ltr style="mso-line-spacing: '100 20 0'; mso-margin-left-alt: 216; mso-char-wrap: 1; mso-kinsoku-overflow: 1" v:shape="_x0000_s1026"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>from this example we can see that the minimum amount of available space couldn't be certain number because may be the remaining free pool could be for example 28 (/8) not 26 and an RIR apply for 4 (/8) so this policy if applied by IANA will initiate phase2 and allocate N for each RIR then allocate M for the requesting RIR.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=O dir=ltr style="mso-line-spacing: '100 20 0'; mso-margin-left-alt: 216; mso-char-wrap: 1; mso-kinsoku-overflow: 1" v:shape="_x0000_s1026"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 32pt; COLOR: yellow; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; text-shadow: auto"><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=3>I hope that could answer you ...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P dir=ltr>> Further to Hisham's follow up mail I think N should = 2, and not N=1.</P>
<P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>Me too choose N=2.</FONT></P>
<P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>Thanks,</FONT></P>
<P dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial>Haitham</FONT></P>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>من:</B> rpd-bounces@afrinic.net بالنيابة عن McTim<BR><B>تاريخ الإرسال:</B> الثلاثاء 10/2/2007 4:12 م<BR><B>إلى:</B> rpd@afrinic.net<BR><B>الموضوع:</B> [AfriNIC-rpd] Last call for comments for Global Policy for theAllocation of the Remaining IPv4 Address Space<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<P dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=2>Gentlefolk,<BR><BR>I have inserted the text of the policy below for comments inline:<BR><BR>> Name: Hytham Zakaria EL Nakhal<BR>> Organisation: National Telecom Regulatory Authority, Egypt<BR>> Version: Draft<BR>> Date: 07 July 2007<BR>> Status: Open for discussion<BR>> Authors: Roque Gagliano (ANTEL), Francisco Obispo (CENIT), Hytham EL<BR>> Nakhal (MCIT), Didier Allain Kla (ISOC Cote d'Ivoire)<BR><BR>Thank you for your hard work all.<BR><BR>><BR>> Policy Affected: The current on-demand global policy for the<BR>> distribution of IPv4 address space to the Regional Internet Registry<BR>> (RIR) system.<BR><BR>So this proposal will entirely replace this policy?:<BR><A href="http://www.aso.icann.org/docs/aso-001-2.pdf">http://www.aso.icann.org/docs/aso-001-2.pdf</A><BR><BR>><BR>> Incentive: In order to assure the equal distribution of the IPv4<BR>> address space across RIR regions, this policy proposal describes a<BR>> process for the allocation of the remaining IPv4 space from<BR>> IANA to the existing RIRs<BR>><BR>> Policy Proposal Name: Global Policy for the Allocation of the<BR>> Remaining IPv4 Address Space.<BR>><BR>> Proposal:<BR>> --------------<BR>><BR>> Policy Statement:<BR>><BR>> This policy describes the process for the allocation of the remaining<BR>> IPv4 space from IANA to RIRs. When a minimum<BR><BR>I would have said "certain number" not "minimum number", as I can't<BR>parse what "minimum" means here.<BR><BR>>amount of available space is reached, an identical number of IPv4 allocation units (/8s)<BR>> will be allocated from IANA to each RIR, replacing the current IPv4<BR>> allocation policy.<BR>><BR>> In order to fulfill the requirements of this policy, at the time of its<BR>> adoption, an identical number of IPv4 allocation units (N) will be<BR>> reserved by IANA for each RIR. The number N is<BR>> defined as 5. The reserved units will no longer be part of the available<BR>> space at IANA pool.<BR>><BR><BR>Further to Hisham's follow up mail I think N should = 2, and not N=1.<BR><BR><BR>> The process for the allocation of the remaining IPv4 space is divided<BR>> in two consecutives phases:<BR>><BR>> 1. Existing Policy Phase:<BR>><BR>> During this phase IANA will continue allocating IPv4 addresses to the<BR>> RIRs using the existing allocation policy. This phase will continue<BR>> until a request for IPv4 address space from any RIR to IANA can not be<BR>> fulfilled with the remaining IPv4 space available in the IANA pool.<BR><BR>I don't understand this. If LACNIC for instance requests a /8, and<BR>IANA doesn't have it left to give, then it's way too late for n=1 or<BR>2, no? I think I've missed something<BR>;-P<BR><BR>In any case, I think it will be advantageous for the AfriNIC community<BR>to get N /8s, as it will certainly last us longer than the more<BR>established RIRs.<BR><BR>Globally however I lean slightly more to the soft landing approach.<BR><BR>--<BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>McTim<BR>$ whois -h whois.afrinic.net mctim<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>rpd mailing list<BR>rpd@afrinic.net<BR><A href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</A><BR></P></FONT></BODY></HTML>