<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi McTim,<DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 2, 2007, at 5:36 PM, McTim wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi All,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On 10/2/07, Hisham R Rojoa <<A href="mailto:hisham@afrinic.net">hisham@afrinic.net</A>> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Dear Colleagues and Members</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Apologies but I forgot to mention that the policy reached consensus with the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">following modifications:</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If the proposal is modified, then shouldn't we be back at step 3 (or</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">even step 1) on:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.afrinic.net/pdp.htm">http://www.afrinic.net/pdp.htm</A></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">After all, the amendments/modifications have no chance to be discussed</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">by the list until AFTER it has reached f2f consensus if we go on to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">step 5 (15 day Last Call), as we seem to be doing now.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>I think that</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">if suggested changes to a proposal are agreed at the f2f meeting, the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">rest of the list should get a chance to have their say on the proposal</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">as if it was a new proposal.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>(a) IMHO, this would fall under "amendments to new PDP". Seems you might have to propose something to that effect, a policy proposal (amendment?) for that matter.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>(b) The last-call is meant to incorporate recommendation/comments made during the f2f meeting.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>(c) The current PDP says:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><snip></DIV><DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#080808" face="Arial"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></FONT></DIV><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#080808" face="Arial">"</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#080808" face="Arial"><B>4.</B></FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#080808" face="Arial"> If there is consensus at the open policy meeting, go to step 5 (read last-call) as itemized below. If there is not consensus, step 3 will be repeated until consensus is reached or the policy proposal is abandoned (or withdrawn)</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#080808" face="Arial">"</FONT><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV></snip></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>There was consensus during the f2f meeting and in line with the current PDP, we should go step 5, which is the last-call.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Regards,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>-Vincent</DIV><DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1. The number of members of the moderator group from the community would be</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3 instead of 2</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2. The 30 day deadline for the board to ratify the proposal has been removed</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I would like to see a thorough description of what powers the Board</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">has at this point, listed in the PDP.<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Do they have the power to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">disapprove a proposal after Last Call if they disagree with it, or can</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">they only NOT ratify a proposal because the PDP was not followed?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">As far as removing the 30 day deadline, was this done for</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">administrative reasons (it's hard to get all Board memebrs together at</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">same time within 30 + 15 days of a f2f meeting perhaps).<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Removing the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">deadline might make it possible for the Board NOT to ratify a proposal</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">for months or even years, no?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Can someone who was in Durban explain it to me?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; 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