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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sorry but I have to state my opposition to this approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We are going to take whats left… while we are still allocating
so much slower than anyone else in the world… so that we can keep allocating
LONG after everyone else has stopped and moved onto IPv6 and leaves us, as a
continent, behind yet again, still playing with an old specification, instead
of leading the rest of the world like this continent should be doing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How does it make sense for us to do everything we can to
prolong the life of IPv4 on the continent while the rest of the world is going
to be *<b>forced</b>* to move to something else, by doing this all we are doing
is once again condemning ourselves to living behind the rest of the world, at
their mercy again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sorry to be so blunt, but no, I really honestly and truly believe
this is a flawed approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
rpd-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sendoro
Juma<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:49 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Richard@bell.co.ke; AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List<br>
<b>Cc:</b> AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] What is our take on the central pool IPv4
exhaustion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Hello
Richard Bell,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>>Since
many networks rely on the second hand equipment markets to grow cost eff
ectively and since africa has the smallest share of existing ipv4 allocations,
why not do something radical like lobbying for afrinic to get the lions share
of what's left.................. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I
full agree with your comment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Best
Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Sendoro<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
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The things we fear most in organizations -- fluctuations, disturbances, imbalances -- are the primary sources of creativity. - Margaret J. Wheatley:<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Richard Bell" <richard@bell.co.ke><br>
To: "AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List"
<rpd@afrinic.net>, "AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion"
<rpd@afrinic.net><br>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 7:47:47 PM (GMT+0300) Asia/Kuwait<br>
Subject: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] What is our take on the central pool IPv4
exhaustion?<br>
<br>
I have not followed the debate in detail. However clearly the cost to operators
of upgrading their networks are significant. Furthermore the relative growth of
african networks is gaining momentum. Since many networks rely on the
second hand equipment markets to grow cost eff ectively and since africa has
the smallest share of existing ipv4 allocations, why not do something radical
like lobbying for afrinic to get the lions share of what's
left..................<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
Richard Bell<br>
sent from my Wananchi Mobile<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
<br>
From: "Adiel A. Akplogan" <adiel@afrinic.net><br>
Subj: [AfriNIC-rpd] What is our take on the central pool IPv4 exhaustion?<br>
Date: Sat 11 Aug 2007 18:45<br>
Size: 2K<br>
To: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion <rpd@afrinic.net><br>
<br>
Dear colleagues, <br>
<br>
Since few months now we have seen several analysis and papers <br>
about the IPv4 exhaustion. For everybody it sound clear that <br>
the exhaustion of the central pool will happen and that the long <br>
term solution is IPv6. And we are trying to do our best to raise <br>
awareness and support the community in that regards. <br>
<br>
But in the mean time we need to handle the remaining resource <br>
toward complete exhaustion of the central pool. In that regard <br>
several policy proposals have been seen in different regions (some <br>
as candidate for global policy). Here bellow are some of them: <br>
<br>
Global policy proposal also sent to this list: <br>
Title: Global policy for allocation of the remaining IPv4 address <br>
http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/afpol-v4gp200707.htm <br>
[This policy suggest an equal distribution of the last 25 <br>
remaining /8 among the 5 RIRs] <br>
>>> Note: We haven't seen any comment here yet <<< <br>
<br>
Global Policy proposal not yet sent here: <br>
Title: IPv4 Countdown Policy <br>
http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-046-v002.html <br>
[This policy make the number of /8 to be equally distributed <br>
to 1 and put emphasis on LIR information and definition of local <br>
policy in each region for post-exhaustion management of their <br>
remaining IPv4 pool] <br>
<br>
Local policy in ARIN region <br>
Title: IPv4 Soft Landing proposal <br>
http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/ppml/2007-May/006895.html <br>
[30 days after specified thresholds in the amount of address space <br>
remaining in the IANA IPv4 free pool are crossed, the requirements <br>
necessary for ISPs to obtain additional IPv4 address space are made <br>
more stringent and requesters must demonstrate efforts both to <br>
utilize scarce IPv4 address space more efficiently, set up IPv6 <br>
infrastructure services, and eventually offer production IPv6 <br>
connectivity.] <br>
<br>
I will like to draw our attention to the fact that the issue <br>
touches us in different way and our bottom up resource policy <br>
approach give us the right and the opportunity to express <br>
ourselves on the topic and propose policy that will be suitable <br>
in our region. <br>
<br>
We would like to hear from you on this. <br>
<br>
- a. <br>
<br>
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