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From: <I>Vincent Ngundi <vincent@kenic.or.ke></I><BR>Reply-To: <I>AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd@afrinic.net></I><BR>To: <I>AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd@afrinic.net></I><BR>Subject: <I>Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] AfriNIC Policy Proposal: IPv6 ProviderIndependent(PI) Assignment for End-Sites</I><BR>Date: <I>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:40:16 +0300</I><BR>>On Mar 22, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Mark J Elkins wrote:<BR>><BR>>>McTim - what then are you suggesting? .. to never have PI IPv6 in <BR>>>the<BR>>>AfriNIC region?<BR>>><BR>>>I believe that some organisations truly need PI IPv6 address space.<BR>>>I don't think its down to us to discuss pricing - but I'd have to <BR>>>agree<BR>>>with you - if the price was high enough<BR>>>only those that really need would apply - as long as its world<BR>>>route-able
(thus filling up routing tables around the world).<BR>>><BR>>>>From a "Routing Table" point of view - this is one reason why I <BR>>>>liked<BR>>>the idea of providing back-to-back /48 allocations for the likes of<BR>>>IXP's - addresses that would not need to be routed around the <BR>>>world...<BR>>>separate from organisations that really do need world route-able <BR>>>addresses.<BR>>><BR>>>The folk at AfriNIC can allocate addresses from appropriate blocks<BR>>>according to the needs of the clients<BR>>The new draft doesn't explicitly define the size of the block from <BR>>which the assignments will be made. As Adiel pointed out, these <BR>>decisions are affected by many other factors and as such we should <BR>>leave it to AfriNIC to make that decision.<BR>><BR>>>- they could even have a two
tier<BR>>>price - low price for world-non-routable, high price for world- <BR>>>routable.<BR>>ditto.<BR>><BR>>-v<BR>>><BR>>>In the mean time....<BR>>>a) We still need a PI IPv6 policy though.<BR>>>b) The "routing table" problem will be solved - the AfriNIC <BR>>>negative<BR>>>(as in growth of the table size) contribution will be negligible.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:<BR>>>>Nobody is asking to be in panic mode, just to fulfill the AfriNIC <BR>>>>and the<BR>>>>community rules and having a balance in what is really needed and <BR>>>>what is<BR>>>>conservation.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Making possible for all end-users to apply for this policy may <BR>>>>become a big<BR>>>>waste and not only about addresses and routing
slots, but also a <BR>>>>problem for<BR>>>>AfriNIC to handle contracts, fees and membership of end-users (as<BR>>>>individuals) and many additional implications.<BR>>>><BR>>>>Regards,<BR>>>>Jordi<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>>De: Alain Patrick AINA <aalain@trstech.net><BR>>>>>Organización: technologies réseaux et Solutions (www.trstech.net)<BR>>>>>Responder a: <aalain@trstech.net>, AfriNIC Resource Policy <BR>>>>>Discussion List<BR>>>>><rpd@afrinic.net><BR>>>>>Fecha: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:12:03 +0000<BR>>>>>Para: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd@afrinic.net><BR>>>>>Asunto: Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] AfriNIC Policy Proposal: IPv6
<BR>>>>>ProviderIndependent<BR>>>>>(PI) Assignment for End-Sites<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>On Thursday 22 March 2007 11:27:39 McTim wrote:<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>>On 3/22/07, Alain Patrick AINA <aalain@trstech.net> wrote:<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>seems easy to fix between now and abuja :-)<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>>The other hidden aspect of this discussion is: "are we solving <BR>>>>>>>a problem<BR>>>>>>>for ens-site or for end-user ?"<BR>>>>>>><BR>>>>>>We are solving a problem for a small number of folk, but <BR>>>>>>creating<BR>>>>>>future problems for all. We can obviate future woes by setting<BR>>>>>>appropriate fees for v6
PI.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>>I recommend this: http://www.vaf.net/~vaf/rrg.pdf for folk who <BR>>>>>>are<BR>>>>>>interested in routing scaling issues.<BR>>>>>><BR>>>>>Yes. Routing and addressing scalability is an issue and we have <BR>>>>>to look at it,<BR>>>>>but not in panic mode.<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>IETF-68's yesterday plenary has an interesting discussion on it .<BR>>>>><BR>>>>>See the routing and addressing problem status report at :<BR>>>>>http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07mar/slides/plenaryw-3.pdf<BR>>>>><BR>>>>><BR>>>>>--alain<BR>>>>>_______________________________________________<BR>>>>>rpd mailing
list<BR>>>>>rpd@afrinic.net<BR>>>>>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd<BR>>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>**********************************************<BR>>>>The IPv6 Portal: http://www.ipv6tf.org<BR>>>><BR>>>>Bye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 !<BR>>>>http://www.ipv6day.org<BR>>>><BR>>>>This electronic message contains information which may be <BR>>>>privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for <BR>>>>the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the <BR>>>>intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, <BR>>>>distribution or use of the contents of this information, including <BR>>>> attached files, is
prohibited.<BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>_______________________________________________<BR>>>>rpd mailing list<BR>>>>rpd@afrinic.net<BR>>>>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd<BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>--<BR>>> . . ___. .__ Posix Systems - Sth Africa<BR>>> /| /| / /__ mje@posix.co.za - Mark J Elkins, SCO <BR>>>ACE, Cisco CCIE<BR>>>/ |/ |ARK \_/ /__ LKINS Tel: +27 12 807 0590 Cell: +27 82 601 <BR>>>0496<BR>>><BR>>>_______________________________________________<BR>>>rpd mailing list<BR>>>rpd@afrinic.net<BR>>>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd<BR>>><BR>><BR>><BR>>_______________________________________________<BR>>rpd mailing
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