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[rpd] [off-topic] Humble feature request for quarantined/cleaned up IP addresses
Loganaden Velvindron
loganaden at gmail.com
Sun Sep 27 12:05:31 UTC 2026
On Sun, 27 Sept 2026 at 15:53, Sylvain BAYA <baya.sylvain at cmnog.cm> wrote:
>
> Le 26 septembre 2026 09:23:43 GMT+01:00, Ben Roberts - AfriNIC via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> a écrit :
> >Logan,
> >
>
> Dear Ben,
> Thanks for your email ; brother!
>
> >
> >It might be wrong to assume that all quarantined and returned space is contaminated. I’m sure that cyber threat blacklist companies have their own methods of determining address space with threats.
> >
>
> ...i think, it's more related to INRs squatting;
> but i would leave it to Logan to better
> explain it's context.
>
The issue is stale information in Cybersecurity threat intelligence
feeds as IP blocks are moved into quarantine and prepared for cleaning
up.
> >
> >I might be wrong to just ask to block all returned space (thus rendering it potentially useless to a future user who has been allocated the space).
> >
>
> ...again, it might be such a scenario where:
>
> s1. a delegated resource is returned to the RIR;
> s2. it's added to the quarantine pool;
> s3. it suddently appears on the Internet;
> s4. Cybersecurity concerned parties want to know few things;
> s5. .
I'm not sure about s3. I would ask AFRINIC whether such a case has
happened in the past
and how they dealt with it ?
I have not seen public documentation on the AFRINIC website about the
*process* of quarantine and
cleanup.
>
> >
> >Is there a particular problem that you are trying to solve ?
> >
>
> ...few questions; then:
>
> q1| where could a Cybersecurity concerned
> party go, in order to be able to check
> actual status of that resource?
Ideally, the Cybersecurity person would get reliable and accurate
information from the RIR regarding
the status of that resource in a central location.
> q2| if it's still under quarantine, then how
> one could check by itself?
It would be very useful if AFRINIC could provide a page similar to the
one from ARIN:
https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/blocks_cleared/
I do not currently see such a page on the AFRINIC website. I would be
happy to be proven wrong.
> q3| is a resource into the quanrantine pool
> also associated to AS0?
I believe that AFRINIC would be in a much better position to answer
this question.
> q4| .
>
> Also, as said by Nishal, the WhoWas [*] (requested service) could benefit of such
> a useful add-on.
ARIN has a whowas service. It maintains this page separately:
https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/blocks_cleared/
Many SIEMs support csv or json over HTTPS easily.
> __
> [*]:
>
> By the way, i think the quarantine pool is
> a useful tool; but we need to be able to
> also start to automatically create AS0
> ROAs to each returned IP resources...if
> it's not actually in Staff's procedure...
>
> Thanks to help in pushing for that AS0
> ROA policy implementation; still awaited!
>
> Shalom,
> --sb.
>
> >
> >Kind regards
> >Ben
> >Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 26 Sep 2026, at 10:21, Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Recently, I was investigating a cyber security incident involving IP addresses.
> >>
> >> A recurring challenge is that even after these IP ranges are returned
> >> to AFRINIC for quarantine and cleanup, there is no quick, centralized
> >> way for cybersecurity threat intelligence providers or law enforcement
> >> agencies to track this status change. I fully appreciate that the
> >> AFRINIC team already handles a significant workload.
> >>
> >> I would therefore kindly request AFRINIC members to discuss whether
> >> putting a dedicated page would be a good idea ? The web page would be
> >> for quarantined and cleaned up IP ranges so that Cybersecurity Threat
> >> Intelligence Providers and Law enforcement agencies can easily parse
> >> those to update their blocklists. CSV format is acceptable but json
> >> format would be nice to have especially with the rise of automation.
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Loganaden Velvindron
> >> (Speaking in my own capacity)
> >>
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