[rpd] PDWG Co-Chairs communication regarding observed behavioron AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02

[Noah]

Hi Mike

What AI generated arguments will possibly change the facts that as-set
collision is an issue.

Havent we already documented the fact that as-set names collide across IRR
databases and AI/Claude have nothing to do with this fact.

When merging across IRR databases, havent we ack that collisions have
resulted in ambiguity, empty or conflicting objects that cause tools to
return incorrect or empty filter data. How is this AI/Claude problem?

Havent other RIR implemented, hierarchical naming, some through policy
others through operational implementations to bind new as-set to a specific
ASN holder. Did they consult AI/Claude while at it?

Havent folks agreed that going forward we fix the issue at the moment of
creation of new as-sets the only point at which an authoritative registry
can prevent new instances of collision problem. I dont see how this is
AI/claude concern nor how AI will be involved in technically fixing the
problem even those outsourcing their thinking to claude to oppose what we
want to fix wont be on the ground to fix the issue.

Cheers,
*.**/noah*




On Thu, 23 Jul 2026, 5:50 pm Mike Burns, <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:

> Hi Noah,
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> I have made it clear from the outset that list swamping or use of AI to
> generate duplicative, though reworded objections is grounds for moderation.
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> That issue, which I was at pains to separate from the use of AI, continues
> to be conflated with the simple use of AI.
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> That brings me to ad hominem, which is the basis of my belief and which
> you have failed in your reply.
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> Ad hominem means that the speaker of an argument is of no importance when
> considering the argument.
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> When you ask my for my motive, you breach that.
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> Regards,
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> Mike
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> *From:* Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2026 10:03 AM
> *To:* Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>
> *Cc:* Hytham El-Nakhal <hytham at tra.gov.eg>; pdwg-chairs at afrinic.net; rpd
> List <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] PDWG Co-Chairs communication regarding observed
> behavioron AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02
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> On Wed, 22 Jul 2026, 8:53 pm Mike Burns, <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
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> It’s not like Claude will be elected to any parliament.
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> But this unique governance form for a global asset provides the
> opportunity.
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> I say, who cares if Claude is posting, or ChatGPT, or any other AI.
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> I care that the AFRINIC rpd list is not turned into waste land of AI
> powered trolls
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> Give them a seat at the table and address their arguments.
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> How many valid argument have been made in the past week or you mean a
> single argument repeated through AI generated texts send by single persons
> using multiple different email address or same group saying the same thing
> over and over feeding the troll....
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> I have not experienced this behaviour on the ARIN or RIPE lists or even
> APNIC for which we are both participants..
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> Why are you advocating for it in the AFRNIC service region....?
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> Cheers,
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> *./noah*
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