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[rpd] Writing tools
Mark Elkins
mark at posix.co.za
Tue Jul 21 12:57:26 UTC 2026
+1
They all joined the mailing list around the same time +/- a week.
They all seem to have the same agenda
Hmm...
On 2026/07/21 14:28, Andrew Alston wrote:
> Personally it is not the use of AI that I find objectionable - it is
> clear coordination to attempt to derail consensus using an objection
> which is not based on fact or evidence.
>
> Necessity is not a requirement for policy - never has been - and
> objections should raise issues that show the policy would do harm or
> is out of scope, they should be evidence based, and not purely subjective.
>
> At this point what I am seeing is a bunch of coordinated posts
> generated by AI and sent by random individuals who when looking at
> LinkedIn profiles seem to have no relation to the industry.
>
> While anyone is free to participate in the PDP and I strongly support
> that, such participation needs to be done in good faith, and I am
> starting to seriously doubt that element exists here
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 14:08, Gugu Dhlamini
> <gugudhlamini343 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sami,
>
> The concern is not reasonable moderation. It is that AI use is
> being raised mainly against participants who oppose these
> policies, as though the tool makes their objections illegitimate.
>
> If anyone floods the list, moderate the flooding. Apply that rule
> equally, regardless of viewpoint or drafting method. A real
> participant using AI to translate, edit, or organise their own
> position is not grounds for exclusion.
>
> An open PDP cannot embrace technology for registry operations
> while condemning it when unfamiliar participants use it to speak.
> That would be gatekeeping, not consensus.
>
> Regards,
> Gugu
>
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2026, 10:48 am Sami Ait Ali Oulahcen via RPD
> <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It's been really difficult to follow the list this past 2/3
> days. And I imagine I'm not alone.
> I fully agree on moderating the AI madness. Otherwise, it'll
> dissuade many folks from following/participating.
>
> Regards,
> Sami
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Silber" <silber.mike at gmail.com>
> To: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2026 4:40:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Writing tools
>
> A useful discussion - thank you
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 5:17 PM Mike Burns via RPD
> <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > Yes, the language is a clear tell of AI usage, but flowery
> language alone
> > is not swamping the list.
>
> I don't want to hijack the AS-SET discussion, so thank you for
> the new
> > subject line.
> >
>
> Agreed
>
> >
> > Now, sometimes and unfortunately, I can use vague and
> flowery language
> > myself, so I would advise you to treat the AI stuff like the
> human stuff.
> > Ignore it if it's too vague or flowery to serve as a good
> argument, and
> > you have clearly laid out the two arguments in your last two
> lines.
> > Hopefully the list will show judgement and treat clear and
> concise
> > arguments better than vague ones.
> > And then the AI posts, if they want to be successful, will
> avoid the
> > purple prose.
> >
>
> I think it goes beyond flowery language.
>
> I am concerned that this is a precedent for AI generated DDoS
> attacks on
> the PDP and I do think we should have some light touch
> guidelines. I
> suspect that one of the reasons for the AI-slop flood is not
> just to try
> convince anyone of the value or legitimacy of their views but
> rather to
> overwhelm and frustrate other participants and cause them to
> withdraw from
> participation.
>
> Accordingly, I suggest we don't simply leave this to the
> co-chairs to
> determine on a case by case basis, but rather set some
> guidelines under
> which measures can be taken to avoid AI DDoS.
>
> Anyway - just my ZAR0,02 which is not worth much
>
> Regards
>
> Mike S
>
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