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[rpd] Writing tools

Mark Elkins mark at posix.co.za
Tue Jul 21 12:57:26 UTC 2026


+1

They all joined the mailing list around the same time +/- a week.

They all seem to have the same agenda

Hmm...


On 2026/07/21 14:28, Andrew Alston wrote:
> Personally it is not the use of AI that I find objectionable - it is 
> clear coordination to attempt to derail consensus using an objection 
> which is not based on fact or evidence.
>
> Necessity is not a requirement for policy - never has been - and 
> objections should raise issues that show the policy would do harm or 
> is out of scope, they should be evidence based, and not purely subjective.
>
> At this point what I am seeing is a bunch of coordinated posts 
> generated by AI and sent by random individuals who when looking at 
> LinkedIn profiles seem to have no relation to the industry.
>
> While anyone is free to participate in the PDP and I strongly support 
> that, such participation needs to be done in good faith, and I am 
> starting to seriously doubt that element exists here
>
> Andrew
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2026 at 14:08, Gugu Dhlamini 
> <gugudhlamini343 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Hi Sami,
>
>     The concern is not reasonable moderation. It is that AI use is
>     being raised mainly against participants who oppose these
>     policies, as though the tool makes their objections illegitimate.
>
>     If anyone floods the list, moderate the flooding. Apply that rule
>     equally, regardless of viewpoint or drafting method. A real
>     participant using AI to translate, edit, or organise their own
>     position is not grounds for exclusion.
>
>     An open PDP cannot embrace technology for registry operations
>     while condemning it when unfamiliar participants use it to speak.
>     That would be gatekeeping, not consensus.
>
>     Regards,
>     Gugu
>
>
>
>     On Tue, 21 Jul 2026, 10:48 am Sami Ait Ali Oulahcen via RPD
>     <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
>         Hi all,
>
>         It's been really difficult to follow the list this past 2/3
>         days. And I imagine I'm not alone.
>         I fully agree on moderating the AI madness. Otherwise, it'll
>         dissuade many folks from following/participating.
>
>         Regards,
>         Sami
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: "Mike Silber" <silber.mike at gmail.com>
>         To: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <rpd at afrinic.net>
>         Sent: Monday, July 20, 2026 4:40:55 PM
>         Subject: Re: [rpd] Writing tools
>
>         A useful discussion - thank you
>
>         On Mon, Jul 20, 2026 at 5:17 PM Mike Burns via RPD
>         <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
>         > Hi Rob,
>         >
>         > Yes, the language is a clear tell of AI  usage, but flowery
>         language alone
>         > is not swamping the list.
>
>         I don't want to hijack the AS-SET discussion, so thank you for
>         the new
>         > subject line.
>         >
>
>         Agreed
>
>         >
>         > Now, sometimes  and unfortunately, I can use vague and
>         flowery language
>         > myself, so I would advise you to treat the AI stuff like the
>         human stuff.
>         > Ignore it if it's too vague or flowery to serve as a good
>         argument, and
>         > you have clearly laid out the two arguments in your last two
>         lines.
>         > Hopefully the list will show judgement and treat clear and
>         concise
>         > arguments better than vague ones.
>         > And then the AI posts, if they want to be successful, will
>         avoid the
>         > purple prose.
>         >
>
>         I think it goes beyond flowery language.
>
>         I am concerned that this is a precedent for AI generated DDoS
>         attacks on
>         the PDP and I do think we should have some light touch
>         guidelines. I
>         suspect that one of the reasons for the AI-slop flood is not
>         just to try
>         convince anyone of the value or legitimacy of their views but
>         rather to
>         overwhelm and frustrate other participants and cause them to
>         withdraw from
>         participation.
>
>         Accordingly, I suggest we don't simply leave this to the
>         co-chairs to
>         determine on a case by case basis, but rather set some
>         guidelines under
>         which measures can be taken to avoid AI DDoS.
>
>         Anyway - just my ZAR0,02 which is not worth much
>
>         Regards
>
>         Mike S
>
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