[rpd] IPv6 as a criteria in IPv4 Soft Landing AFPUB-2026-v6-001-DRAFT01.

Tue Jun 30 07:12:50 UTC 2026

Hi Jordi,

If the solution is to convince the MNOs (Mobile Network Operators) to hire
and trust *"vendor- neutral"* consultants for their IPv6 deployment, why
are we trying to use IPv6 as a condition to IPv4 at AFRINIC? I am also
interested in knowing how the *"vendor-neutral consultants"*  get their
experience in deploying IPv6 in Mobile Network from?

@christianbope

On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 at 11:16, jordi.palet--- via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:

> Fortunately, deploying 464XLAT in mobile networks (the only way to go) is
> much easier and cheaper than in wireline. Vendors of both UEs and packet
> switch mobile networks support it very well since many years ago. The
> point, as usual, is to have the expertise and not trust what vendors try to
> sell you.
>
> Is not just a matter of teaching IPv6. In a training you don’t get the
> experience. There is a good reason why consultancy companies have a
> business: it is much cheaper to trust an experienced consultant (vendor
> independent) than a vendor and you avoid all the mistakes of lack of
> experience.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> > El 27 jun 2026, a las 20:32, Ben Roberts - AfriNIC via RPD <
> rpd at afrinic.net> escribió:
> >
> > Alain,
> > I am with you on this.
> > I was talking about this yesterday with someone. It seems we have been
> doing the same things with IPv6 capacity building for best part of 15 years
> and still it’s not really pushing (mass) adoption. Yet we keep doing the
> same things. …..
> >
> > Most Africans connect to the phone via mobile. Manu of them through the
> “big 5” of African MNO groups.
> >
> > We need to focus our IPv6 efforts around 5 groups of MNOs plus 4 vendors
> (2 from China, 2 from Scandinavia).
> >
> > These 9 companies know who they are…. Some of them are represented
> here….
> >
> > Then if they start deploying IPv6 then 700M Africans will be using IPv6
> >
> > The rest will fall into place….
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 27 Jun 2026, at 20:52, ALAIN AINA via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>> On 26 Jun 2026, at 07:16, Benson Muite <benson_muite at emailplus.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "jordi.palet--- via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net> writes:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Seun,
> >>>>
> >>>> I will actually say personally, the only acceptable X=1, but happy to
> concede with 2. Hopefully we don’t have a discussion and every participant
> chose a different number, as this is the typical issue when asking for a
> decision of “number of whatever” in trying to reach consensus.
> >>>
> >>> The low adoption rate is worrying.  Clear criteria to justify IPv4
> >>> maybe helpful.  If one gets IPv4, IPv6 is free.  It is good that
> Afrinic
> >>> is doing outreach to universities. From Africa Gabon seems to have the
> >>> highest percentage capability:
> >>> https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6
> >>> India also has good adoption and a diverse set of people in the
> internet
> >>> industry.  Understanding what has lead to adoption in these places may
> >>> help guide whether what new policies sohuld be adopted if any and how
> to
> >>> complement these with outreach and education activities.
> >>
> >>
> >> A few years ago, I published an analysis of IPv6 uptake in Africa,
> examining adoption from multiple angles, including infrastructure
> readiness, operator behaviour, and user‑access patterns. One of the key
> findings was the positive impact of new market entrants, particularly those
> who deployed IPv6‑capable networks from day one. That dynamic remains
> relevant today.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, the overall situation has not changed significantly. The
> user‑access layer continues to be the weakest point in the regional IPv6
> ecosystem. Given that Africa’s Internet is overwhelmingly mobile‑centric,
> meaningful progress depends on Mobile Internet Service Providers taking
> deliberate steps to enable IPv6 at scale. Without their participation,
> adoption will remain slow regardless of improvements elsewhere in the
> ecosystem.
> >>
> >> There are, however, some recent initiatives underway:
> >>  -  The ICANN grant to the African Telecommunications Union (ATU) to
> support IPv6 deployment in 30 African countries is a major development.
> >>  -  ATU has already published an interim implementation report,
> outlining early progress and challenges.
> >>
> >> These efforts complement AFRINIC’s ongoing outreach, including
> engagement with universities and technical communities.
> >> -----
> >>
> >>
> https://www.digitalintelligence.africa/publications/alain/AFRICA-and-IPv6-uptake.html
> >>
> https://www.icann.org/en/grant-program/first-cycle-funded-projects#deployment-ipv6-african-countries
> >>
> https://atuuat.africa/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/ATU_IPv6_First_Interim_Status_Report_Sep-Dec_2025.pdf
> >>
> https://atuuat.africa/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Africa-IPv6-Development-White-Paper_double-page-version.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >> —Alain
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I will also say that X is only for “single” allocations/assigments,
> in the sense that if you are doing something for HA (one of the policies
> that reached consensus yesterday), you must do it with IPv6. There is no
> sense that you deploy, today, an HA infrastructure without IPv6. What do
> you think ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Jordi
> >>>>
> >>>> @jordipalet
> >>>>
> >>>>> El 25 jun 2026, a las 2:37, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> escribió:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Jordi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----
> >>>>> Sent from my mobile
> >>>>> kindly excuse typos
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 24 Jun 2026, 6:14 pm jordi.palet--- via RPD, <
> rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
> >>>>>> .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So there is no difference in now setting a policy that clearly say,
> you get more IPv4, but you must also deploy IPv6.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We could also do something slightly different, I’m not sure if this
> is what Seun tried to say in the mic earlier this afternoon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We don’t give any more IPv4 resources if you already got them
> previously. This has been done by most of the other RIRs. Will you agree
> with that? Only newcomers can get IPv4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SO: More like you don't get IPv4 resources if you already got it for
> X number of times in the current phase unless you meet the IPv6 deployment
> plan requirements. My intention is for X not !=Once
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now, as a 2nd part of the proposal, resources left (even
> recovered), can be provided to anyone who also deploy IPv6, regardless of
> being a newcomer or an existing member.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Jordi
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @jordipalet
> >>>
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