[rpd] Questions about IP Allocation rate

[Noah]

On Tue, 14 Oct 2025, 1:46 pm jordi.palet--- via RPD, <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:

>
> In both cases you need “some” IPv4 addresses, and because you can’t route
> less than /24, most of the time, you will use a /24.
>

This is a very important point. At bare minimum, that is the block folks
want to see in the DFZ.

As such, ISP sub-allocations with a longer prefix than /24 dont count if we
are thinking strategically even though a single unicast v4 address can
sythasize a good number of TCP ports...

If you have multiple PoPs for your BGP upstreams, then you may need
> multiple /24s.
>

That is why we settled for /22 in the softlanding policy.

Noah


> Regards,
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
> El 14 oct 2025, a las 12:19, Hendrik Visage <hvisage at hevis.co.za>
> escribió:
>
>
>
> On 14 Oct 2025, at 11:55, ben.roberts--- via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
> Owen,
> Will that not exclude many of their their citizens from accessing digital
> services?
>
>
> 1) Get an ASN
> 2) deply IPv6 network
> 3) CGNAT / SIIT-DC  / MAP-T - refer to Sky Networks’s presentations on
> IPv4aaS deployments
>
> Single /24 but you NEED that ASN first !
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
> *Sent:* 14 October 2025 11:44
> *To:* Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> *Cc:* Ben Roberts AfriNIC <ben.roberts at afrinic.net>; Andrew Alston <
> aa at alstonnetworks.net>; RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Questions about IP Allocation rate
>
> Or better yet, not reserving IPv4 could spur those governments to deploy
> their govnets on IPv6 from the beginning with a clean greenfield design
> leapfrogging past the legacy baggage inherent in any IPv4 based solution.
>
> Owen
>
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2025, at 12:26, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> 
> Ben
>
> There is critical structural challenge in the continents digital landscape
> and you more than anyone knows this very well that we also suffer from
> uneven maturity of Digital Public Infrastructure and Government Networks
> (GovNet), which directly impacts the equitable deployment of essential
> digital services across majority of countries across our continent.
>
> Look we are talking about numbering infrastructure that would support
> services like e-government, digital IDs, and public/private data exchanges,
> while aligning with AFRINIC's exhaustion-phase policies.
>
> We can not shy away from these reality or pretend that there is lack of
> foresight from actors at Afrinic and the community at large.
>
> Its a known fact that many of our African governments lack operational
> GovNets and strategic reservations of IPv4 address space from AFRINIC could
> serve as a targeted incentive to bridge these gaps.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> *./noah*
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025, 8:34 pm Ben Roberts - AfriNIC, <
> ben.roberts at afrinic.net> wrote:
>
> I think The DPI systems are normally run by state owned digital agency
> entities which are already mostly LIRs having some space. It is not quite
> as you describe being state owned LIRs that have sovereign owned IPs that
> are independent of LIRs..
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On 13 Oct 2025, at 20:01, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
> 
> 54 African States are taking public services online.
>
> Digital Public infrastructure (DPI) is nolonger an idea. Its a real thing.
> DPI is critical. The private sector will tap into that infrastructure. Its
> here now.
>
> Each of the 54 African states need address space indepedent of LIR space
> in each sovereign state.
>
> These are not ideas that actors in the private sector care about or think
> about.
>
> Cheers,
> *./noah*
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025, 5:52 pm Andrew Alston, <aa at alstonnetworks.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering if there were updated statistics for the amount of space
> allocated in the last 3 years.  In addition to this information regarding
> exactly how much free space is still available in the IPv4 unallocated pool
> (excluding reservations)
>
> I ask this because depending on the allocation rate - we may wish to
> consider revising the soft-landing policy that currently reserves a /12
> worth of ipv4 space for "future uses, as yet unforeseen".
>
> I point out that the soft landing policy was ratified in 2011, and if we
> still, after 14 years, have not been able to articulate a clear reason for
> such a large reservation, I think it's time we look at most, if not all, of
> that /12 back into the main unallocated pool that can be allocated for
> African resource holders that actually need it.
>
> Amongst other reasons, sitting with unallocated, unannounced, reserved
> space like this leaves the space vulnerable to hijacking and malicious use
> or even potential theft.
>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew
>
>
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