[rpd] Questions about IP Allocation rate

[Noah]

On Tue, 14 Oct 2025, 12:53 pm Andrew Alston, <aa at alstonnetworks.net> wrote:

> 36 Countries with a total of 2455 /24s.
>
> The 4 big countries are:
>
> South Africa (23.91%)
> Egypt (22.65%)
> Angola (15.76%)
> Algeria (10.43%)
>

Ok we need to have a real conversation based on these stats...

Let me dig up some country specific Govt data before I pause my next
question.


Noah

>
> Thanks
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 12:49 PM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andrew
>>
>> I will look at the graph on a pc as the image on the phone is not clear.
>> I see four outstanding contries ...
>>
>> How many countries are those in total.? Sorry i cant see the graph
>> clearly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> *.**/noah*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2025, 12:45 pm Andrew Alston, <aa at alstonnetworks.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've run the data downloaded from the AfriNIC stats page to create a
>>> graph (attached)
>>>
>>> This graph shows space allocated per country and classified as
>>> "Government" or "Government Entity" and is done in terms of number of /24s.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 12:10 PM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ben
>>>>
>>>> Yes lets get us get that data from Afrinic. It would be interesting to
>>>> know how many African Govt have Internet Resources or which govt entities
>>>> have internet resources in each country.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> *.**/noah*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2025, 5:41 am Ben Roberts - AfriNIC, <
>>>> ben.roberts at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok. What we probably need is to have IP allocation statistics by
>>>>> African country. We can ask Afrinic for this to be complied. From that you
>>>>> can work out how many IP addresses a country has per capita of population.
>>>>>   Our policy setting needs to be guided by data and research, not rumour.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to this website, Eritrea has just over 5000 IP addresses.
>>>>> https://lite.ip2location.com/eritrea-ip-address-ranges This is on the
>>>>> extreme low side for a country of nearly 4 million population. Seychelles
>>>>> on the other hand with population under 150,000 has multiple tens of IP
>>>>> addresses (allocated to Seychelles registered companies) per capita.
>>>>>
>>>>> Countries that have very low uptake of IP addresses will likely be
>>>>> mostly ones where regulators have not opened up the space to grant new ISP
>>>>> licences, my example of Eritrea has only one AS number for instance. Whilst
>>>>> AfrNIC can hold back some space for countries that forgot to build their
>>>>> digital economies…, the regulators in these countries need to be engaged to
>>>>> tell them “it’s now or never”.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13 Oct 2025, at 22:25, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> There is critical structural challenge in the continents digital
>>>>> landscape and you more than anyone knows this very well that we also suffer
>>>>> from uneven maturity of Digital Public Infrastructure and Government
>>>>> Networks (GovNet), which directly impacts the equitable deployment of
>>>>> essential digital services across majority of countries across our
>>>>> continent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look we are talking about numbering infrastructure that would support
>>>>> services like e-government, digital IDs, and public/private data exchanges,
>>>>> while aligning with AFRINIC's exhaustion-phase policies.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can not shy away from these reality or pretend that there is lack
>>>>> of foresight from actors at Afrinic and the community at large.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its a known fact that many of our African governments lack operational
>>>>> GovNets and strategic reservations of IPv4 address space from AFRINIC could
>>>>> serve as a targeted incentive to bridge these gaps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> *.**/noah*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025, 8:34 pm Ben Roberts - AfriNIC, <
>>>>> ben.roberts at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think The DPI systems are normally run by state owned digital
>>>>>> agency entities which are already mostly LIRs having some space. It is not
>>>>>> quite as you describe being state owned LIRs that have sovereign owned IPs
>>>>>> that are independent of LIRs..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2025, at 20:01, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 54 African States are taking public services online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Digital Public infrastructure (DPI) is nolonger an idea. Its a real
>>>>>> thing. DPI is critical. The private sector will tap into that
>>>>>> infrastructure. Its here now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each of the 54 African states need address space indepedent of LIR
>>>>>> space in each sovereign state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These are not ideas that actors in the private sector care about or
>>>>>> think about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> *.**/noah*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2025, 5:52 pm Andrew Alston, <aa at alstonnetworks.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering if there were updated statistics for the amount of
>>>>>>> space allocated in the last 3 years.  In addition to this information
>>>>>>> regarding exactly how much free space is still available in the IPv4
>>>>>>> unallocated pool (excluding reservations)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ask this because depending on the allocation rate - we may wish to
>>>>>>> consider revising the soft-landing policy that currently reserves a /12
>>>>>>> worth of ipv4 space for "future uses, as yet unforeseen".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I point out that the soft landing policy was ratified in 2011, and
>>>>>>> if we still, after 14 years, have not been able to articulate a clear
>>>>>>> reason for such a large reservation, I think it's time we look at most, if
>>>>>>> not all, of that /12 back into the main unallocated pool that can be
>>>>>>> allocated for African resource holders that actually need it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amongst other reasons, sitting with unallocated, unannounced,
>>>>>>> reserved space like this leaves the space vulnerable to hijacking and
>>>>>>> malicious use or even potential theft.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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