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[rpd] [Board-Discuss] Call for Action: Modernizing the AFRINIC Policy Manual
Jaco Kroon
jaco at uls.co.za
Fri Oct 10 12:47:40 UTC 2025
Hi Jordi,
That may be true. But I'd prefer to re-look at the wording of the
policy to be sure regardless.
A few months ... vs an issue that has dragged on for years.
Kind regards,
Jaco
On 2025/10/10 14:33, jordi.palet--- via RPD wrote:
> Now I understand what you mean. However, the transfers policy will
> need several months of work for the implementation, so even if
> ratified will not work immediately.
>
> In addition to that, to be able to transfer resources, they must not
> be in dispute, which clearly is not the case for those cases, right?
>
>
> Saludos,
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
>> El 10 oct 2025, a las 2:06, Jaco Kroon <jaco at uls.co.za> escribió:
>>
>> Hi Jordi,
>>
>> I fully agree with what you say here.
>>
>> There are however pending disputes regarding legitimacy of a couple
>> of members who could use the specific policy to sidestep the issue.
>> The policy needs to be adjusted to ensure that only members who's not
>> only in good standing, but who is fully compliant with existing
>> policies and where there are no ongoing disputes/court cases etc ...
>> are allowed to transfer out.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Jaco
>>
>> On 2025/10/09 17:10, jordi.palet--- via RPD wrote:
>>> I don’t think membership status has anything to do with PDP.
>>>
>>> Ideally PDP is contributed by many members actively participating,
>>> but I think this is not the case (not only in Afrinic, also in
>>> general in other RIRs).
>>>
>>> Even if I personally disagree with the transfer policy that got
>>> consensus declared, I think it should be ratified immediately,
>>> because implementation takes many months (as experienced by other
>>> RIRs). In that period, we still have the chance to improve it, if
>>> the community believe that needs to be done. Then small
>>> implementation changes can often be done very quickly.
>>>
>>> This is the same for any policy that reached consensus, even for the
>>> complete policy manual. It is a “live law”, the community has the
>>> chance to*always* change or improve things. What it will be useless
>>> and long time consuming is when something that reached consensus
>>> (and had a positive impact analisys) is returned to the list to
>>> re-start again the full process. Again, if something can be
>>> improved, let’s do it based on the already approved text, not from
>>> scracth.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jordi
>>>
>>> @jordipalet
>>>
>>>
>>>> El 9 oct 2025, a las 6:42, Jaco Kroon <jaco at uls.co.za> escribió:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> That policy specifically may be one we may want to hold off until
>>>> current membership status has been sorted out first. Or at least
>>>> the policy should be amended to compensate for what we've learned
>>>> in the last five years.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Jaco
>>>>
>>>> On 2025/10/09 02:21, Emmanuel Vitus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good to see the list active again. Hopefully we can keep the
>>>>> energy focused this time and not fall back into the long circular
>>>>> debates we had in the past.
>>>>> It could help to have a simple matrix showing which proposals can
>>>>> be ratified quickly with little or no cost and which ones may need
>>>>> more time or legal review. A timeline would also be useful to
>>>>> follow progress taking into account the Board comments and the
>>>>> steps before ratification.
>>>>> The transfer policy should move forward as soon as possible, my
>>>>> 2cents.
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>> - Emmanuel
>>>>>
>>>>> Le jeu. 9 oct. 2025 à 00:18, jordi.palet--- via RPD
>>>>> <rpd at afrinic.net> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Caleb,
>>>>>
>>>>> The proposals that I refer:
>>>>> 1) Already reached consensus.
>>>>> 2) Already were sent to the board with the relevant reports.
>>>>>
>>>>> So from that perspective, with “basically administrative” I
>>>>> mean that there is not “a lot of other” work to be done in the
>>>>> proposals. Of course, the board should make sure that the
>>>>> proposals aren’t against the company, but the legal
>>>>> implications, operational feasibility, alignment with the
>>>>> bylaws, etc., was already done because all this is part of the
>>>>> analysis impact that was prepared *before* declaring
>>>>> consensus. This is just the way the PDP works, so we aren’t
>>>>> changing anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>> Jordi
>>>>>
>>>>> @jordipalet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> El 8 oct 2025, a las 18:07, Caleb Ogundele
>>>>>> <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jordi and All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm happy this list is becoming more active, and it is a good
>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>> Responding to @Jordi, I must respectfully differ with Jordi
>>>>>> on point one. While I share the desire to see pending
>>>>>> proposals move forward, I don't believe board ratification
>>>>>> should be characterized as "basically an administrative task
>>>>>> that should not take too much time."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Board ratification is a critical governance checkpoint where
>>>>>> proposals are reviewed for legal implications, operational
>>>>>> feasibility, and alignment with AFRINIC's mission and bylaws.
>>>>>> Given that we're emerging from three years of limited
>>>>>> functionality as a community, I believe the Community and the
>>>>>> Board deserve adequate time to properly review and ratify
>>>>>> proposals, especially those that may have significant
>>>>>> operational or financial implications for AFRINIC and its
>>>>>> members. Times have changed in the last three years and
>>>>>> community members have different views on certain policies.
>>>>>> Rushing this process could lead to oversights that create
>>>>>> problems down the line. Quality should take precedence over
>>>>>> speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>> /Speaking for myself as a community member
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 6:34 PM jordi.palet--- via RPD
>>>>>> <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI Seun, all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fully agree with your view. I will add 2 more points:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) There are several policy proposals that reached
>>>>>> consensus and are “paused” just waiting for the board
>>>>>> ratification. I understand the board will be very busy,
>>>>>> but the ratification is basically an administrative task
>>>>>> that should not take too much time. So please, consider
>>>>>> doing so ASAP, so the implementation can also be
>>>>>> initiated, as I think in some cases it may take long time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Some of use may need to plan ahead, and buy our
>>>>>> flights as early as possible (too close to the meeting
>>>>>> become extremely expensive when traveling from abroad)
>>>>>> for the next PPM, so it will be good to announce firm
>>>>>> dates and location as soon as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those that have policy proposals still under discussion
>>>>>> really need to have a status summary and specially
>>>>>> understand if the actual co-chairs will continue as
>>>>>> suggested, so we can restart our work and encourage
>>>>>> discussions in the community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, I don’t think we need a “complete modernization
>>>>>> of the policy manual”, but instead concentrate in review
>>>>>> the existing discussion and decide if we need to focus on
>>>>>> any new topic at the time being.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saludos,
>>>>>> Jordi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @jordipalet
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El 8 oct 2025, a las 17:02, Seun Ojedeji
>>>>>>> <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Ben, RPD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's good that this discussion is starting up. I don't
>>>>>>> think anything revolutionary with the rpd needs to
>>>>>>> happen from the board level at this time. The rpd itself
>>>>>>> should evolve through policies and while the board
>>>>>>> indeed has the ability to write a policy when required
>>>>>>> and in certain circumstances i do think that it isn't
>>>>>>> necessary at this time. I would suggest the following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Current Co-Chairs continue in their role towards the
>>>>>>> next Public Policy Meeting (PPM) and they should
>>>>>>> coordinate on the things Sami mentioned with regards to
>>>>>>> authors representing their proposal and new proposals as
>>>>>>> applicable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. We usually hold 2 PPMs every year 1 during the AIS
>>>>>>> and another at the second AFRINIC pubic meeting in the
>>>>>>> year, it will be good for the Board to provide the rpd
>>>>>>> with some information on how soon that can happen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. With the recent board election, staff does have
>>>>>>> significant experience on conducting credible and
>>>>>>> verifiable election. The Board should leverage on that
>>>>>>> to organise election of Co-Chairs at the next ppm inline
>>>>>>> with the CPM. The 2 seats should be filled in a
>>>>>>> staggered manner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile
>>>>>>> kindly excuse typos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2025, 6:00 pm Ben Roberts - AfriNIC via
>>>>>>> RPD, <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sami,
>>>>>>> Thanks for your mail and we appreciate your
>>>>>>> contributions to PWDG to date and are happy to see
>>>>>>> you are keen to start it up again. I am replying as
>>>>>>> a community member, though I am also a board member
>>>>>>> of AfriNIC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I feel that as we restart the PWDG process, what is
>>>>>>> absolutely key is that we get *much more* diversity
>>>>>>> in that process. My question back to you is to ask,
>>>>>>> how do we invigorate the process to involve many
>>>>>>> more key experts in the digital economy of Africa?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2025, at 08:08, Sami Salih via Board
>>>>>>>> <board at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Dear PDWG Community,*
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> I hope this message finds you well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to take this opportunity to
>>>>>>>> congratulate you all on the successful election of
>>>>>>>> the AFRINIC Board and the resumption of its proper
>>>>>>>> functioning. This milestone marks an important step
>>>>>>>> toward restoring stability, trust, and continuity
>>>>>>>> in AFRINIC’s role as the Regional Internet Registry
>>>>>>>> for Africa. With governance now back on track, it
>>>>>>>> is the right moment to resume the Policy
>>>>>>>> Development Process (PDP) and address the policy
>>>>>>>> gaps that have accumulated during the past three
>>>>>>>> years of interruption.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you are aware, over the past three years AFRINIC
>>>>>>>> has gone through a period of limited functionality,
>>>>>>>> and the Policy Development Process (PDP) has been
>>>>>>>> effectively paused. During this time, the global
>>>>>>>> Internet number community has continued to evolve,
>>>>>>>> with significant policy updates taking place across
>>>>>>>> the other RIRs. This has created a widening gap
>>>>>>>> between AFRINIC’s Consolidated Policy Manual (CPM)
>>>>>>>> and those of our sister RIRs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In order to restore the momentum of policy
>>>>>>>> development in our region and to ensure that
>>>>>>>> AFRINIC’s policy environment remains relevant,
>>>>>>>> consistent, and globally aligned, I would like to
>>>>>>>> highlight the following areas where action is needed:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Previous PDWG Co-Chairs*
>>>>>>>> While their terms have now ended, we request that
>>>>>>>> the most recent PDWG Co-Chairs prepare a short
>>>>>>>> report summarizing the last set of policy proposals
>>>>>>>> that were under discussion before the process
>>>>>>>> stalled. We further encourage the original authors
>>>>>>>> of those drafts to resubmit them for renewed
>>>>>>>> community review, or alternatively, invite any
>>>>>>>> community member to take initiative to re-submit
>>>>>>>> and champion them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *AFRINIC Board*
>>>>>>>> We call on the Board to formally publish a
>>>>>>>> community call for modernizing the AFRINIC Policy
>>>>>>>> Manual. This would include identifying and
>>>>>>>> prioritizing areas where policy alignment with
>>>>>>>> other RIRs is needed (e.g., IPv4 transfer
>>>>>>>> frameworks, IPv6 allocation criteria, RPKI
>>>>>>>> adoption, Whois/privacy reforms, and
>>>>>>>> membership/resource governance models). Such a call
>>>>>>>> would help set a clear direction and provide
>>>>>>>> legitimacy to the process of catching up with
>>>>>>>> global best practices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *PDWG Community*
>>>>>>>> Most importantly, we urge all community members to
>>>>>>>> actively re-engage in the PDP by discussing any
>>>>>>>> submitted proposals, providing constructive
>>>>>>>> feedback, and enriching the drafts with insights
>>>>>>>> drawn from operational experience. The strength of
>>>>>>>> AFRINIC’s PDP has always been rooted in the
>>>>>>>> diversity and expertise of its community, and your
>>>>>>>> participation will be crucial in shaping the future
>>>>>>>> of Internet number resource management in our region.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a collective responsibility, and now is the
>>>>>>>> right moment to re-energize our PDP and demonstrate
>>>>>>>> the resilience of the AFRINIC community.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With Regards.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sami Salih*, PhD (ICT), PMP®
>>>>>>>> Assistant Professor, Sudan University of Science
>>>>>>>> and Technology
>>>>>>>> Tel: (249) 122045707
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