[rpd] AFRINIC PDWG Co-Chair Selection Timeframe

Sat Apr 23 19:07:44 UTC 2022

Dear PDWG,

Le samedi 23 avril 2022, Daniel Yakmut <yakmutd at googlemail.com> a écrit :

> Dear Sylvain,
>
> You answered my questions,  we can do things when and how we like it. It
> clearly also shows that we can interpret laws and rules at our whims and
> caprices.
>

Hi Daniel,
Thanks for your email, brother.
...it's your understanding and the choice remains
yours! to share my *personal* view or not.

>
> As I can see the spirit of the letters of the CPM does not matter anymore.
>
>
...i would like to ask you to be kind enough to recall
 it to others...including me.

> The world is a jungle indeed.
>

...my, *personal*, take about this is as follow:

""

Luke 6:29 If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also.
And if someone takes your cloak, do not withhold your tunic as well.
https://biblehub.com/luke/6-29.htm
""

...again, you already know exactely what to do, if
you are willing to impact the future behaviours of
 the PDWG.

Thanks & remain blessed brother!

Shalom,
--sb.

>
> Simply,
> Daniel
>
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2022, 18:32 Sylvain Baya, <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear PDWG,
>> Hope this email finds you in good health!
>>
>> Please see my comments below, inline...
>>
>> Le vendredi 22 avril 2022, Daniel I. Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>> Thanks for your email, brother!
>>
>>
>>> Have we amended the process of selecting/nominating/electing Co-Chairs
>>> now?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Please process are you refering to?
>>
>> Remember that we had agreed that the procedure
>> available to replace PDWG's Chairs is very open;
>> and it's not seems to be a bug in the actual version
>>  (1.6) of the PDP [1].
>> __
>> [1]: <https://afrinic.net/policy/manual/amp#PDP-Process>
>>
>> As you know, the appropriate words are: *choose*,
>> *nominate*, *select*, *selection*; and each of those
>>  correspond to a particular situation about PDWG
>> Chairs' tenure and replacement.
>>
>> Of course, in case of a replacement after a full
>> mandate, the appropriate term is: "*nominate*
>> during the PPM". Is it preventing the PDWG to do
>> whatever it see fit before the PPM; in order to
>> ensure itself that the *nomination* is successfully
>> conducted during the up coming PPM?
>>
>> That's the question!
>>
>> <paste_CPM_section_3.3>
>> 3.3  The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)
>>
>> The Policy Development Working Group (PDWG) discusses the proposals.
>> Anyone may participate via the Internet or in person. PDWG work is carried
>> out through the Resource Policy Discussion mailing list (rpd at afrinic.net)
>> and the bi-annual AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings (PPM). Any person,
>> participating either in person or remotely, is considered to be part of the
>> Policy Development Working Group.
>>
>> The Policy Development Working Group has two Chairs to perform its
>> administrative functions. The PDWG Chairs are chosen by the AFRINIC
>> community during the Public Policy Meeting and serve staggered two-year
>> terms. The term ends during the first Public Policy Meeting corresponding
>> to the end of the term for which they were appointed. A term may begin or
>> end no sooner than the first day of the Public Policy Meeting and no later
>> than the last day of the Public Policy Meeting as determined by the mutual
>> agreement of the current Chair and the new Chair.
>>
>> If the Working Group Chair is unable to serve his or her full term, the
>> Working Group may select a replacement to serve the remainder of the term.
>> If the Working Group Chairs are unable to attend the Public Policy Meeting,
>> the Working Group shall nominate a Chair for the session. Anyone present at
>> the meeting, whether in person or by remote participation, may participate
>> in the selection process for a temporary Chair.
>> </paste_CPM_section_3.3>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Because the proposed activities and timeline looks extremely strange to
>>> me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Please, could you elaborate on what you see as
>> strange?
>>
>>
>>> However, if I am missing something, please can i be referred to the
>>> reviewed (new) document that says we can now select/nominate/elect
>>> co-chairs on the mailing list.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's clearly not about a formal document/DPP :-/
>>
>> But if you want, feel free to propose a DPP to
>> clarify what appeares to be void into the running
>>  version of the CPM.
>>
>> ...i agree that the *nomination* is done during the
>>  PPM, per CPM section 3.3, but what's preventing
>> the PDWG to consensually prepare its success
>> beforehand? It's exactely what's happening right
>> now, imho!
>> Please, see also early comment above.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Someone like me is beginning to loose interest
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ...i understand your say, and i sympatize, brother;
>> but i don't think it's actually the case.
>>
>> It's rather a PDP flexibility which allows the PDWG
>> to consensually and freely do things that could ameliorate its difficult
>> conditions...
>>
>>
>>
>>>  with us conducting our activities without a standing guide.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> If you don't like that, still, interesting flexibility,
>> imho! then i encourage you to submit a DPP.
>>
>>
>> Clarifications on  is important and urgent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ...i hope this clarifies something!
>>
>> Also, i thank the Policy Liaison Team for the
>> welcomed support provided to the PDWG to
>> guarantee a soft transition to a new PDWG's Chair.
>>
>> Shalom,
>> --sb.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Simply,
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>> On 21/04/2022 19:08, AFRINIC Policy Liaison wrote:
>>>
>>> *Dear PDWG,*
>>>
>>> * [...]*
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best Regards !
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>> vous tous! ‪#‎Amen‬!»
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>>
>>

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