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[rpd] Summary of Proposal AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy AFPUB-2020-GEN-006-DRAFT02

Fernando Frediani fhfrediani at
Wed Jan 5 18:51:31 UTC 2022

Exactly, that's my view as well.
People seem to not understand what they want to discuss. Or perhaps they 
just are not willing to be submitted to any kind of rules anymore.

There scarce resources being assigned under rules agreed by this forum 
and people keep believing that once that is done the RIR cannot do 
anything else and they may use those resources in the way they wish 
without having to explain anything to anyone.
And once they feel any possibility to be questioned for their actions 
they try to confuse that like if the RIR was going into questions that 
are not of their business, but the reality is that THEY ARE !
If resources are used out of the current rules it is the RIR duty to 
supervise and if necessary revoke such resources. How hard is to 
understand this business and how all this works ?

If one want transfer resources *under the rules* he must render accounts 
to the body who assign and revoke those resources and give all necessary 
information that is required under those rules.

At the end it is always important to remember: those are not your 
resources and will never be. They are assigned to you for your and your 
customers usage while they remain needed and justified.

Best regards

Em 05/01/2022 15:35, Murungi Daniel via RPD escreveu:
> Dear Elvis and Cheken,
> Do you know what an RIR is ? Is AFRINIC an RIR?
> A quick resource to help you understand what RIRs are and what they 
> do,
> Regards,
> Daniel
>> On Jan 5, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Ibeanusi Elvis <ibeanusielvis at> 
>> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> There is a reason why this policy has been in discussion for a very 
>> long time and I emphatically believe that the passing of this policy 
>> by the board is a huge mistake as it directly gives an enormous level 
>> of authority and bureaucracy to the AFRINIC. Therefore meaning that 
>> all transfers will require some type of approval from the AFRINIC 
>> when they are just the managers of number resources, and they should 
>> just be facilitating a smooth transfer.
>> Regards,
>> Elvis.
>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 5:29 Cheken Chetty <rameez.chetty at> 
>> wrote:
>>     Good day all,
>>     I am against this policy because I feel there is too much power
>>     still given to AFRINIC in the transferral of resources. My
>>     concern is that AFRINIC may have the tendency to ignore the
>>     approval and just impede the transfer process. Clause 3.6
>>     suggests in the end everything must come to AFRINIC's approval
>>     when they do not have an authority over the resources.
>>     Regards
>>     On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 5:28 PM PDWG Chair <vincent at>
>>     wrote:
>>         **
>>         *Dear PDWG, *
>>         *
>>         The  summary of the elements that led to the PDWG Chairs
>>         decision for the policy  proposal AFRINIC Number Resources
>>         Transfer Policy - Policy Proposal AFPUB-2020-GEN-006-DRAFT02
>>         that was discussed during the AFRINIC-34 Public Policy
>>         Meeting is as follows:-
>>         Lack of reciprocity with ARIN was raised and addressed by the
>>         authors and members of the PDWG, who mentioned that while the
>>         proposal is conservative and aims at protecting the resource
>>         pool of AFRINIC, AFRINIC can start with the implementation of
>>         resource transfers with those RIRs that have confirmed or do
>>         not require reciprocity. The authors also clarified that
>>         incoming transfers of legacy resources will be covered by the
>>         AFRINIC RSA as the recipient will have to become a member.
>>         After deliberation, the PDWG Co-chairs announced that having
>>         considered the current version of the policy proposal, the
>>         deliberations during the  current PPM and the editorial
>>         changes that the authors have committed to, they have
>>         determined that rough consensus has been reached. The updated
>>         version of the policy proposal, with ID
>>         AFPUB-2020-GEN-006-DRAFT03, was submitted on 22 Nov 2021 and
>>         is available at
>>         <>. This
>>         version of the proposal   will now move to Last Call and the
>>         community can further engage in that period.
>>         The Last Call starts on 8 December 2021 and will end at 23h59
>>         UTC on 5 January 2022.
>>         Regards,
>>         Vincent Ngundi & Darwin Da Costa
>>         *
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