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[rpd] [Community-Discuss] ARIN without Owen Delong ?

DANIEL NANGHAKA dndannang at gmail.com
Wed Jul 14 11:08:49 UTC 2021


Thank you Owen for the email,

I do not appreciate private emails as the matter was published and is being
publicly discussed.

This is a practice of bad actors in the community.

Daniel


On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 13:56, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:


> Daniel,

>

> Responding in private since this is off-topic for the list.

>

> This really has nothing to do with the AFRNIC PDP and has to do with

> things I want to be able to say and advocate for in the ARIN region.

>

> There is no conflict between my activities in AFRINIC PDP and my role on

> the ARIN AC.

>

> As to my interest in the AFRINIC PDP, you should note that I’m also at

> various times active in APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE, and ARIN PDPs.

>

> I make my living as a consultant and I have at various times had clients

> all over the world and some clients with global networks. As a result, I am

> often asked to pay attention to the PDP in those regions.

>

> I am also someone with a strong sense of community service. As such, since

> I am obliged to monitor the process for my client(s) anyway, I will often

> work towards what I perceive as the best interests of the community

> (regardless of whether it is best for my client or not) and I will often

> advocate as such. In general, I select clients who are generally

> ideologically aligned with me.

>

> One exception is Cloud Innovation. While I am not ideologically 100% in

> agreement with them and do not necessarily favor the current state of

> policy which benefits them, I am even more concerned that the RIRs cannot

> simply make up policy or randomly interpret policy to suit their

> ideological goals and must, instead, follow the policy as written until it

> is amended through the proper community process.

>

> AFRINIC has a long history of corruption, election irregularities,

> financial misdeeds, and failure to properly follow its own rules in both

> its governance process and in its management of the IP registry database.

> As such, I have maintained a high level of interest in AFRINIC’s doings in

> an effort to do what I can to help resolve those issues.

>

> Owen

>

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 03:38 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Dear Marcus,

>

> I strongly agree, that there are policy updates from the other RIRs, what

> is catching my interest at the moment is that Owen has been one of the very

> active participants on PDP and I believe AFRINIC has a high level of

> freedom of expression.

> When he gives a reason that he wants to have greater freedom and

> flexibility to advocate for changes in the internet community, some of

> which would be considered a conflict of interest with his role as an

> Advisory Council member. I begin to realise that Owen could have been

> having a high conflict of interest which conflicted with his position on

> the AC.

>

> Dear Owen,

> Owen, kindly advise how we could deal with the Conflict of Interest in the

> PDP as you state it clearly in your reason. Furthermore, I still have

> question marks as to why the AFRINIC PDP is of high interest to you - yet

> the Policies discussed are for the development of the Internet in Africa.

> Is something wrong with the AFRINIC PDP that stimulates high interest for

> your participation in AFRINIC Process that the Africa participants have

> failed to solve which requires your expertise?

>

> Is ARIN more superior than AFRINIC?

>

> Thanks

> Daniel

>

>

>

>

> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 13:26, Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>> Dear Owen and PDWG,

>>

>> I don’t think this is an off-topic. There are reasons why we always have

>> session on “policy update from other RIRs” at every PPM…it’s like we care

>> for what happened at ARIN PDP through its AC and possible impact on our

>> PDP and related issues

>>

>> In response to the statement below, one would like to know why is Owen

>> talking about “ was not forced to resign”? Nobody said so AFAIK, how

>> come the position at ARIN constitute restraint to speech and why only now?

>>

>> And question for this community is how do we deal with conflict of

>> interest in our PDP?

>>

>> Thanks

>>

>>

>>

>> Marcus

>>

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> *From:* Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>

>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:03:19 PM

>> *To:* Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com>

>> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>;

>> AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>

>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] ARIN without Owen Delong ?

>>

>> Apologies to the list for this off-topic posting, but given the

>> unwarranted attention already paid to the

>> matter and the escalating level of speculation, I beg your indulgence.

>> This will (hopefully) be the

>> only post I make on the matter here.

>>

>> For clarity:

>>

>> 1. I chose to resign my position on the ARIN AC. I was not forced to

>> resign. I did not have to resign.

>> So your speculation is neither accurate, nor appropriate and the

>> implications are offensive.

>>

>> 2. I chose to resign in order to have greater freedom and flexibility to

>> advocate for changes in the

>> internet community, some of which would be considered a conflict of

>> interest with my role as

>> an Advisory Council member. While I have been outspoken by most

>> standards, the reality is

>> that my position on the AC did serve as a significant restraint to my

>> speech in many cases.

>> The time has come where I felt the need to remove that restraint in order

>> to best serve the

>> community.

>>

>> Reading anything other than the above into it would be a mistake and

>> further speculation is very

>> unlikely to produce any accurate conclusions.

>>

>> If anyone has questions about my resignation, they are free to ask me

>> directly, but this really is

>> not an appropriate topic for this list.

>>

>> Owen

>>

>>

>> On Jul 13, 2021, at 05:56 , Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> @Taiwo

>>

>> We all would like to know why Owen, so active in our PDP, has to resign

>> from his position at ARIN AC which serves in an advisory capacity to the

>> Board of Trustees on Internet number resource policy and related matters.

>>

>> --

>> Arnaud

>>

>> Le lun. 12 juil. 2021 à 12:37, Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com> a

>> écrit :

>>

>> Benjilo.

>> How is this of concern to you or to any of the members of the afrinic

>> community. Kindly direct your question to the appropriate quarters -

>> owen at delong.com -

>>

>>

>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 19:27, Paschal Ochang <pascosoft at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Great question Daniel.

>>

>> On Sunday, July 11, 2021, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Is this worth discussing on the rpd or mailing lists?

>>

>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021, 8:36 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>> Hello

>>

>> Out of curiosity, does anyone know why Owen Delong active in AFRINIC PDP

>> resigned from ARIN AC?

>>

>> https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/ac/meetings/2021_0617/ point 10

>>

>>

>>

>> Marcus

>>

>>

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>>

>> --

>> Kind regards,

>>

>> Paschal.

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