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[rpd] [Community-Discuss] ARIN without Owen Delong ?
DANIEL NANGHAKA
dndannang at gmail.com
Wed Jul 14 11:08:49 UTC 2021
Thank you Owen for the email,
I do not appreciate private emails as the matter was published and is being
publicly discussed.
This is a practice of bad actors in the community.
Daniel
On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 13:56, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Responding in private since this is off-topic for the list.
>
> This really has nothing to do with the AFRNIC PDP and has to do with
> things I want to be able to say and advocate for in the ARIN region.
>
> There is no conflict between my activities in AFRINIC PDP and my role on
> the ARIN AC.
>
> As to my interest in the AFRINIC PDP, you should note that I’m also at
> various times active in APNIC, LACNIC, RIPE, and ARIN PDPs.
>
> I make my living as a consultant and I have at various times had clients
> all over the world and some clients with global networks. As a result, I am
> often asked to pay attention to the PDP in those regions.
>
> I am also someone with a strong sense of community service. As such, since
> I am obliged to monitor the process for my client(s) anyway, I will often
> work towards what I perceive as the best interests of the community
> (regardless of whether it is best for my client or not) and I will often
> advocate as such. In general, I select clients who are generally
> ideologically aligned with me.
>
> One exception is Cloud Innovation. While I am not ideologically 100% in
> agreement with them and do not necessarily favor the current state of
> policy which benefits them, I am even more concerned that the RIRs cannot
> simply make up policy or randomly interpret policy to suit their
> ideological goals and must, instead, follow the policy as written until it
> is amended through the proper community process.
>
> AFRINIC has a long history of corruption, election irregularities,
> financial misdeeds, and failure to properly follow its own rules in both
> its governance process and in its management of the IP registry database.
> As such, I have maintained a high level of interest in AFRINIC’s doings in
> an effort to do what I can to help resolve those issues.
>
> Owen
>
> On Jul 14, 2021, at 03:38 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Marcus,
>
> I strongly agree, that there are policy updates from the other RIRs, what
> is catching my interest at the moment is that Owen has been one of the very
> active participants on PDP and I believe AFRINIC has a high level of
> freedom of expression.
> When he gives a reason that he wants to have greater freedom and
> flexibility to advocate for changes in the internet community, some of
> which would be considered a conflict of interest with his role as an
> Advisory Council member. I begin to realise that Owen could have been
> having a high conflict of interest which conflicted with his position on
> the AC.
>
> Dear Owen,
> Owen, kindly advise how we could deal with the Conflict of Interest in the
> PDP as you state it clearly in your reason. Furthermore, I still have
> question marks as to why the AFRINIC PDP is of high interest to you - yet
> the Policies discussed are for the development of the Internet in Africa.
> Is something wrong with the AFRINIC PDP that stimulates high interest for
> your participation in AFRINIC Process that the Africa participants have
> failed to solve which requires your expertise?
>
> Is ARIN more superior than AFRINIC?
>
> Thanks
> Daniel
>
>
> ᐧ
>
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 13:26, Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Owen and PDWG,
>>
>> I don’t think this is an off-topic. There are reasons why we always have
>> session on “policy update from other RIRs” at every PPM…it’s like we care
>> for what happened at ARIN PDP through its AC and possible impact on our
>> PDP and related issues
>>
>> In response to the statement below, one would like to know why is Owen
>> talking about “ was not forced to resign”? Nobody said so AFAIK, how
>> come the position at ARIN constitute restraint to speech and why only now?
>>
>> And question for this community is how do we deal with conflict of
>> interest in our PDP?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 13, 2021 5:03:19 PM
>> *To:* Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>;
>> AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] ARIN without Owen Delong ?
>>
>> Apologies to the list for this off-topic posting, but given the
>> unwarranted attention already paid to the
>> matter and the escalating level of speculation, I beg your indulgence.
>> This will (hopefully) be the
>> only post I make on the matter here.
>>
>> For clarity:
>>
>> 1. I chose to resign my position on the ARIN AC. I was not forced to
>> resign. I did not have to resign.
>> So your speculation is neither accurate, nor appropriate and the
>> implications are offensive.
>>
>> 2. I chose to resign in order to have greater freedom and flexibility to
>> advocate for changes in the
>> internet community, some of which would be considered a conflict of
>> interest with my role as
>> an Advisory Council member. While I have been outspoken by most
>> standards, the reality is
>> that my position on the AC did serve as a significant restraint to my
>> speech in many cases.
>> The time has come where I felt the need to remove that restraint in order
>> to best serve the
>> community.
>>
>> Reading anything other than the above into it would be a mistake and
>> further speculation is very
>> unlikely to produce any accurate conclusions.
>>
>> If anyone has questions about my resignation, they are free to ask me
>> directly, but this really is
>> not an appropriate topic for this list.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>>
>> On Jul 13, 2021, at 05:56 , Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> @Taiwo
>>
>> We all would like to know why Owen, so active in our PDP, has to resign
>> from his position at ARIN AC which serves in an advisory capacity to the
>> Board of Trustees on Internet number resource policy and related matters.
>>
>> --
>> Arnaud
>>
>> Le lun. 12 juil. 2021 à 12:37, Taiwo Oye <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Benjilo.
>> How is this of concern to you or to any of the members of the afrinic
>> community. Kindly direct your question to the appropriate quarters -
>> owen at delong.com -
>>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 19:27, Paschal Ochang <pascosoft at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Great question Daniel.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 11, 2021, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is this worth discussing on the rpd or mailing lists?
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021, 8:36 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Out of curiosity, does anyone know why Owen Delong active in AFRINIC PDP
>> resigned from ARIN AC?
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/about/welcome/ac/meetings/2021_0617/ point 10
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
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>>
>> --
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Paschal.
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