[rpd] Last Call - RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned AFRINIC Address Space AFPUB-2019-GEN-006-DRAFT03.

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

Hi Job, all,

And the ROAs come from? All is the same source of information one way or the other.

As I said before, the RPD list is not for training and that means that you don't need to explain all the details when discussing a policy proposal. Is up to the participants to make sure they understand all those details.

Presuming that unallocated/unassigned AFRINIC space has not been used for bad things (if that's the case, staff could confirm), doesn't guarantee that it will not happen. It may happen less and less with IPv4, but the IPv6 spaces is much bigger.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 8/6/21 17:41, "Job Snijders via RPD" <rpd at afrinic.net> escribió:

    On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 05:12:13PM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:
    > Then we should “cancel” the AFRINIC whois, IRR, etc., right?

    Unfortunately, I think the above remark shows you might misunderstand
    the technologies at hand. The meaning of RPKI ROA objects vs IRR/WHOIS
    objects is slightly different. (But they do look very similar!)

    The RFC 6811 Origin Validation procedure is an innovation which only
    permits RPKI ROAs as input into the algorithm. One cannot perform the
    RFC 6811 procedure with IRR or WHOIS data as input. This is a
    significant difference in semantics.

    I understand that this is a very subtle and nuanced difference... but
    those services are not the same. Think of it as not being on a
    'guestlist' versus being added to a 'killlist'.

    By the way --- 

    Has anyone done research how much alleged 'hacking' and 'spamming' comes
    from unallocated AFRINIC ranges in the DFZ? Is it so bad that we are
    willing to risk global connectivity? Are there not other (better) ways
    to combat network misuse?

    In the RIPE and APNIC discussion nobody was able to show me any
    statistics or data about the scope of 'the problem'.

    My own research into this suggests that the use of a AS0 TAL will NOT
    materially improve anything. Many organizations fight internet abuse
    through all kinds of techniques, in my opinion the AS0 proposal is the
    wrong tool.

    Kind regards,

    Job

    ps. Is anyone on this mailing list using the LACNIC or APNIC AS0 TAL?

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