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[rpd] Call for interest for PDWG chairs closed & Way forward
Jaco Kroon
jaco at uls.co.za
Thu Apr 8 18:38:26 UTC 2021
Hi Jordi, All,
Just to be clear, whilst related, the two proposals are indeed separate
/ severable.
I also think it's important to make note that we need chairs prior to
the meeting in order to enable a more constructive meeting
(policy/proposal preparation and finalisation prior to the meeting).
Kind Regards,
Jaco
On 2021/04/08 20:21, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:
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> I also agree.
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> However, if somebody disagree with the point 2 below, that should not
> be a blocking point or worry right now, because as I mention the other
> day, we can ask the elected chairs to allow the PDWG to discuss a
> simple 1-paragraph proposal, using the 3.6 varying the process, such as:
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> “In case any of the chairs have been recalled, the selected
> replacement will serve a full term in such way that it coincides with
> the staggered two-year terms ending after the closer PPM to match the
> term.”
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> Regards,
>
> Jordi
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> @jordipalet
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> El 8/4/21 20:04, "Mark Elkins" <mje at posix.co.za
> <mailto:mje at posix.co.za>> escribió:
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> I really, really like this idea - especially the consensus part... and
> also as it seems we only have two truly suitable candidates.
>
> /1. We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with
> Vincent in the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year tenure.
> By consensus if possible./
>
> I have individually asked both Vincent and Darwin whether they would
> be agreeable to this and they both stated *Yes *as per above.
>
> / 2. Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I
> would like to propose that we measure these
> tenures as from "this year" such that the effective tenures
> will be one and two years respectively from now,.../
>
> I also agree with this - I don't want a repeat of all this in two
> months time.
>
> I don't expect full consensus - I honestly expect between 4 and 10
> people to say No, and to repeat that several times. I would though
> love to see masses of support for this. This will save quite a bit of
> time (and money).. and allow us all to proceed fairly quickly with new
> Co-Chairs - and back to a level of sanity!
>
> Please can we sort this out by *Reasonable Consensus!*
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> On 4/8/21 6:16 PM, Jaco Kroon wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> Given that we've repeatedly stated that there should be a
> nominator and a seconder for all nominations, this means we only
> really received 3 nominations (3,4,5 below).
>
> Given that Abulkarim (4) was one of the co-chairs removed by the
> recall committee, and there has been controversy around the
> previous co-chairs, in my opinion we only really have two candidates.
>
> And both of these candidates seems to be good choices. From
> Vincent's (3) nomination, by Barry:
>
> "Vincent is an outstanding person for the PDWG as he was the first
> co-chair of the same back in the days. we need to bring back the
> fundamental values and hence i nominate him"
>
> I could not agree more about bringing back the fundamentals, and
> plainly Vincent has experience in a co-chair position that we
> desperately need at this point in time.
>
> Regarding Darwin (5), I've gone back and read a fair number of his
> emails over the last year or so, and Darwin in my opinion has a
> level head, the ability to reason and understand as well. I could
> not find a single example of him being involved personally in a
> controversy in spite of him providing his opinion on a number of
> topics.
>
> I would thus like to make two proposals.
>
> 1. We select the two candidates as above, in my opinion with
> Vincent in the two-year tenure and Darwin in the one year tenure.
> By consensus if possible.
>
> 2. Given that the next meeting is two months from now, I would
> like to propose that we measure these tenures as from "this year"
> such that the effective tenures will be one and two years
> respectively from now, and not "puppet" and "one year" effectively.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Jaco
>
> On 2021/04/08 16:26, AFRINIC Policy Liaison wrote:
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> Dear Colleagues
>
>
>
> As mentioned in our email on 7 April 2021, AFRINIC as
> Secretariat had started the process of contacting the
> nominators that were mentioned in the nomination forms of the
> candidates . The update feedback received is as follows:-
>
>
>
> 1. Wijdane Goubi - Nominator did not approve as per
> email received
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> 2. Anthony Ikechukwu Ubah - Nominator did
> not approve as per email received
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> 3. Vincent Ngundi - Both nominator & Seconder
> approved as per email received
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>
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> 4. Adbulkarim Oloyede - Both nominator &
> Seconder approved as per email received
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> 5. Darwin da Costa - Both nominator &
> Seconder approved as per email received
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> 6. Elvis Ibeanusi - Nominator approved as
> per email received
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> Regards
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