[rpd] way forward on the PDWG after the Recall of the co-chairs

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

Hi Owen,


El 19/2/21 12:49, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> escribió:



    > On Feb 18, 2021, at 12:23 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:
    > 
    > Hi Owen,
    > 
    > I've based the summary of your inputs in several of your emails, mainly in https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012252.html.
    > 
    > I've inserted your comments in two places, as you discussed this in 2 different threads:
    > 
    > Owen DeLong:
    > Provided inputs to previous participants about non-enforceable points, following the PDP. Didn’t provided any preference, and NOT objected to any choice.

    "NOT objected to any choice" — Several choices have been mentioned on the list which violate the PDP.

[Jordi] I think if we take it literal 100%, all the choices may violate the PDP, even the one that we are discussing today. The discussion was set in the context of extreme situation, like when the AGM was unable to call for a meeting because lack of Board quorum.

    > Owen DeLong
    > Responding to Dewole Ajao, speaks about the ARIN AC and the co-Chairs model in the other RIRs. He suggests a ranked-choice voting, following the same as it has been presented as choice 1, and presenting detailed operational details for it.	1
    > 	
    > As you can see, you need to read them following the previous inputs. This way I avoided duplicating text.
    > 
    > And yes, the report clearly indicates that existing co-chairs should be allowed to run, and also that you suggested to follow the PDP, which is option 1. May be my fault was not indicating also option 2, but note that you didn't responded to the choices suggested in my email, so I needed to interpret following *all* your emails. Sorry not being more precise on that interpretation.

    So long as we follow the PDP, I don’t have a strong preference, so I did not express one. I did, however, object to several suggestions which were brought up (admittedly, not according to the constraints you proposed on choices) and which included other people’s proposals that were not among the 4 you put forward.

[Jordi] However, I don't think you can say that the report doesn't correctly show the points that you indicated if you read it completely and understand, as explained that it is summary, not literal transcription.

    Owen

    > 
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    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    > @jordipalet
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > El 18/2/21 3:30, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> escribió:
    > 
    >    This is not an accurate reflection of my comments.
    > 
    >    I stated emphatically that the recalled co-chairs should be allowed to run.
    > 
    >    I also stated emphatically that we should follow the PDP and the PDP calls for the working group
    >    to elect co-chairs..
    > 
    >    Owen
    > 
    > 
    >> On Feb 16, 2021, at 3:07 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
    >> 
    >> Dear Board, all,
    >> 
    >> Following the February 10th email from the Board Chair, the PDWG has discussed the possible options on the way forward after the Recall of the PDWG co-chairs.
    >> 
    >> The attached document, already circulated today in the RPD, is a summary and conclusions of the discussions reached by the consensus of the PDWG.
    >> 
    >> The PDWG hasn't requested any change to the document in the last few hours, however it has been updated just to correct a couple of typos (track of changes show them).
    >> 
    >> As a consequence, the decision is:
    >> 
    >> "Halt everything regarding PDP decisions, until the board can organize on-line elections in a few weeks (with the previous electoral census)."
    >> 
    >> We should remark, as it has been suggested already by some participants in the discussion, that the ideal situation would be, once candidates are introduced to the PDWG, we have a constructive discussion in the list (and hopefully among the candidates) and some of the candidates withdraw, so an actual election process is no longer needed, as it already happened in the previous elections. Of course, this can't be guaranteed, so the elections process must be ready for that contingence.
    >> 
    >> We will await your decision about the timing and the call for candidates.
    >> 
    >> Regards,
    >> Jordi
    >> @jordipalet
    >> 
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