[rpd] WE NEED YOUR INPUT, MAXIMUM BY TUESDAY 16TH NOON: Decision of way forward for new (transition or elected) co-chairs

[Owen DeLong]

> On Feb 11, 2021, at 02:16 , Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:

> 

> I'll go with what Mike has said, that is - Option 1. I think a directive from the CEO & Chair is all that is needed and doesn't really need to wait a week for a full Board Meeting. It is on the shoulders of this community to fix the problem.

> 

> I think we should only allow the same people that were eligible to vote last time - which would save time. I presume that list still exists.

> 

> I'd like to see at least four people standing. I don't believe that the two ex-chairs should be allowed to stand (we are trying to change a bad situation). Personally, I'd like to see people standing that are resource owners - as they then have their own skin in the game - as such. No one with a policy in the current process chain should stand.

> 


I don’t think that they should be precluded from standing. While the recall was successful and I think that they are unlikely to receive a plurality of votes as a result, if the community votes to put them back into office, I see no reason that the community should be deprived of that option.

> Most votes - person stands for remainder of two years,

> second most votes - stands for remainder of this current year.

> 

> As Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud at gmail.com> <mailto:amelnaud at gmail.com> said on 24th Dec:

> 

> > Is it normal that out of 2 cochairs, none is contact of a resource member?

> > Having a cochair who runs network and serves as contact (technical) of a  resource member is a big wish as previously discussed in this community.

> 


I don’t think it would be unreasonable to add this as an eligibility requirement through modification of the relevant PDP sections, but I don’t think we should be making it up on the fly without community discussion. There is a process for amending the eligibility requirements and we should follow it if we wish to do so.

Owen


> !

> 

> 

> On 2/11/21 11:45 AM, Mike Silber wrote:

>> Jaco +1

>> 

>> Really humbling that a WG member from outside our region is the one trying to drive to consensus.

>> 

>> Some comments inline.

>> 

>> Mike

>>  

>>> On 11 Feb 2021, at 11:28, Jaco Kroon <jaco at uls.co.za <mailto:jaco at uls.co.za>> wrote:

>>> 

>>> Hi Jordi,

>>> 

>>> Thank you for your drive on this.

>>> 

>>> On 2021/02/11 10:45, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:

>>>> Hi all,

>>>> 

>>>> Following the previous email, we have 4 choices for selecting the new co-chairs:

>>>> 

>>>> 1. Halt everything regarding PDP decisions, until the board can organize on-line elections in a few weeks (with the previous electoral census).

>>>> 

>> 

>> Agree with 1.

>>> 

>>> Pros for (1) / Cons against (2):

>>>     - quicker turn around for (1)

>>>     - we don't know when feasible we would be able to arrange for (2)

>>> 

>>> Cons against (1) / Pros for (2)

>>>     - Easier to generate bogus votes for (1).

>>> 

>> Agreed

>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 3. Ask the board to choose 2 transition co-chairs, so we can have elections in the future (option 2 above).

>>>> 4. Nominate ourselves a few names for transition co-chairs and let the board to decide among them, once they confirm their willingness to take the job, so we can have elections in the future (option 2 above).

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Personally I don't really think that (3) and (4) are two distinct

>>> options, more like we should try to get recommendations / nominees to

>>> the board as per 4, and then give the board prerogative to select the

>>> candidates (even from non-nominees if none of the nominees have the

>>> required background / skills / suitability, obviously with motivations).

>>> 

>> Agreed. I like the option of 4 + 3 if we can get some rough consensus on this list of some nominees. Particularly if (1) takes some time.

>> 

>> 

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