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[rpd] PDWG situation without co-chairs

Dewole Ajao dewole at
Tue Feb 9 09:43:23 UTC 2021

Boss, it's the process - and it's been written that way for years in
plain sight.

1. Anyone may request the recall of a Working Group Chair at any time,
upon written request with justification to the AFRINIC Board of
Directors. The request must be supported by at least five (5) other
persons from the Working Group. *The AFRINIC Board of Directors
shall appoint a recall committee*, excluding the persons requesting
the recall and the Working Group Chairs. *The recall committee shall
investigate* the circumstances of the justification for the recall
*and determine the outcome.*

The *emphasis *in there is mine. It might be beneficial to the working
group if you or any others could offer alternative interpretations of
those sentences so we can look at them together now rather than waste
energy litigating (Assuming it becomes clear who will be suing who

:-P).  I believe the process to appeal the contents of the PDP is

proposing new policy text and convincing the group that the text should
be changed.


On 2/9/2021 10:18 AM, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:

> This interpretation is subjective, and it is totally wrong and

> draconian for the committee to have the powers of investigation,

> judgement and execution.


> If truly the Recall committee is this powerful then the process will

> have be appealed and it is a subject of litigation.


> Simply,

> Daniel


> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 10:05 AM Alan Barrett < at

> < at>> wrote:


> Dear PDWG,


> On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 00:51, Fernando Frediani

> <fhfrediani at <mailto:fhfrediani at>> wrote:

> > No Daniel, the output of the Recall Committee regarding the

> > Co-Chairs is already final (read point 19 from their report)

> > according to whats the CPM says about it, so it does not

> > have to be approved by anyone, not even the Board itself.

> >

> > So currently we don't have any Co-Chairs.


> Yes, as far as I understand, the Recall Committee's decision is final.

> Article 3.5(3) of the CPM gives the Recall Committee the power to

> "determine the outcome", not merely to suggest or report to some other

> party. The Board also stated "The Recall Committee will report the

> outcome to the Policy Development Working Group. The decision of the

> Recall Committee is final."  (That is in a document from the Board

> that might not have been published, but is referenced from page 3 of

> the Recall Committee's Working Procedure document.)


> The Recall Committee gave their decision in paragraph 19 of the "Final

> Determination" document:  "19. The Committee therefore determines that

> a recall of both the co-Chairs is justifiable in the circumstances,

> and that both the co-Chairs be recalled with immediate effect.".


> > What the Committee has mentioned in the document is for the

> > Board to lead the election of the new Co-Chairs and determine

> > the transition during this interim.


> Yes, the last sentence of paragraph 20 of the Recall Committee's

> report is a suggestion; it is not binding:  "The Committee suggests

> that the Board coordinate with the PDWG to find an adequate transition

> mechanism until the next election."


> Regards,

> Alan Barrett


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