[rpd] Community Feedback

[Sunday Folayan]

Hello Wijdane,

Let me address one seemingly small but recurring issue in your emails:

"Admittedly, the CPM seems to be simple on its face, but it raises many 
questions when applied to actual situations, such as the section 3.5 
which states that “The recall committee shall investigate the 
circumstances of the justification for the recall and determine the 
outcome”, in this case we can’t decide what exactly was meant by the 
outcome and we can’t determine whether it means the co-chairs should be 
removed or if the request should move forward."

I have dealt with this. Moving forward, I think you should use "I" and 
not "We". The meaning is clear and has been explained. Please deal with 
my response and not re-raise it.

Good Evening.

Sunday.

On 12/4/20 9:57 PM, Wijdane Goubi wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I totally do not understand how defending oneself while being accused 

> of some serious accusations can be seen as threats. Additionally, the 

> co-chairs have the total right to prevent unjustified personal attacks 

> through the use of a sufficient level of counteracting warnings.

>

> Regarding what type of job the co-chairs have, YES it is voluntary, 

> whether we like it or not, and they are not getting enough credits for 

> what they do. Moreover, just because the co-chairs decisions do not 

> align with some people’s interests does not mean that their task isn’t 

> held in a high esteem.

>

> Admittedly, the CPM seems to be simple on its face, but it raises many 

> questions when applied to actual situations, such as the section 3.5 

> which states that “The recall committee shall investigate the 

> circumstances of the justification for the recall and determine the 

> outcome”, in this case we can’t decide what exactly was meant by the 

> outcome and we can’t determine whether it means the co-chairs should 

> be removed or if the request should move forward.

>

> As for the « AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy », trying to 

> prove a point by comparing two incomparable situations is neither 

> functional nor fits in this context. The last draft policy proposal 

> had another competing proposal that was already in the last call, in 

> addition, the co-chairs were waiting for the analysis/advice on how to 

> handle and proceed with the proposal, that being said, they were not 

> purposely delaying the procedure. Whereas, this ongoing recall besides 

> the fact of it being problematic and based ,as mentioned so many 

> times, on biased and subjective opinions, its proponents are ,for the 

> most part, people who have aggressively opposed the last policy proposal.

>

> Cheers,

> Wijdane.

>

> Le ven. 4 déc. 2020 à 15:08, Gregoire EHOUMI via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net 

> <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :

>

>     Abdulkarim,

>

>     You deliberately delayed the procedure for the proposal "AFRINIC

>     Number Resources Transfer Policy Version 1.0"

>

>     https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011943.html

>

>     You actually wrote to this working group stating that a competing

>     proposal was already in the last call, and you wanted to reduce

>     community burnout.

>

>     While there is an ongoing co-chairs recall request, you are keen

>     and excited about making a decision on whether or not to fast

>     track a new proposal on Co-Chair Recall, ignoring the calls to

>     withdraw the proposal and the related discussions.

>

>     Don't you see a double standard on your part when it comes to how

>     you handle proposals submitted to the WG?

>

>     Regards,

>     Gregoire

>

>

>>     On Dec 1, 2020, at 11:29 PM, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE

>>     <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>>

>>     wrote:

>>

>>     Dear PDWG Members,

>>     We want to acknowledge the proposal on Co-Chair Recall process

>>     and the call for us to invoke section 3.6 of the CPM given the

>>     lack of clarity of the current section on the recall process.

>>     We note that a few have accused of not taking over similar

>>     discussions in the past and regarded it as gross misconduct.

>>      We hope the Community would, in the next few days give us a

>>     clear direction as to which way to go. We hope to feed the

>>     Community back on our decisions by Saturday 5th December 2020.

>>     We thank you for your understanding, cooperation and the

>>     continued trust in us.

>>     Thanks

>>     Co-Chairs

>>     PDWG

>>

>>

>>

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