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[rpd] [pdwg] AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy Version 1.0
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Tue Oct 27 21:13:22 UTC 2020
Hi AK,
I’m sorry, but that is a broken rationale: Any member of the community is free to submit as many proposals as he/she believes are needed. I don’t think anyone is going to be presenting a policy proposal in “bad-faith” just to keep the community busy.
The problem is that miss-judgment of consensus (accepting as valid those objections that are clearly non-valid) is making several (actually most of) policy proposals to come back again and again, so this increase the number of proposals in discussion.
My proposal in that meeting was very simple: follow the approach done in other RIRs. Have more meetings, focussed in less policy proposals.
I also said that is a *no-sense* at all, that we have a virtual meeting with *less time* for the policies than in the face-to-face meetings. Face-to-face meetings have clear restrictions, but in a virtual meeting, at least, we should expect the same time, no much less! Of course, this is not your fault, is the board or staff that decided on the meeting agenda time.
I also asked the board to organize at least one PPM every 3 months, if possible with sets of related proposals, the first one probably could take place in December for the Inter-RIR proposals.
Last but not least, I’ve the feeling that the burnout is actually created by the way the WG is being miss-managed and by strange, surprising and outrageous PDP interpretations. I’m sorry to say that, but it is my honest and unfortunate feeling.
It is not just your fault, it comes from long time and I think staff has not been proactive. Of course this is just my personal opinion and we must recall that we have now a new policy officer, and it takes some time to recover and further to that the Covid situation is not helping at all. As an example of what I’m saying, in the last 3-4 years or so, I’ve been providing useful ideas, that in my opinion helped in other regions to get more participation, such as periodic virtual open presentations (not for decision making), open lunch tables in physical meetings to discuss with authors about proposals, on-site presentations of the proposals before the PPM so there is more time for non-heated discussions and inputs to authors, etc., etc., etc.
Only a couple of times, if I recall correctly, we did the virtual remote presentations, but we stoped that, so instead of engaging more and more people, we just wasted our time, because any of this activities needs continuity to be succesful.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 27/10/20 20:29, "ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE" <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> escribió:
Dear Mirriam,
Probably you missed the session of the board community engagement during the online AIS. Please watch the videos. There was a 'special' appeal especially to Jordi by our respected Prof that he should reduce the number of proposals he is submitting so that we can reduce the community 'burnout' and have time to extensively discuss issues. Others including Jordi himself also complained that we are allocating to little time to each proposal during the meeting. The only way we can have enough time is to reduce the number of polices. That is simple logic
Are you speaking for yourself here?
Cheers
AK
n Tue, 27 Oct 2020, 12:58 Mirriam, <mirriamlauren at yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Abdul,
"The community is made up of volunteers whose time are very precious. We want to reduce community burnout as much as we can and avoid wasting any one's time."
Has any "community volunteer" complained of their Time being wasted Or that they are experiencing burnout from contributing to this community Or you are assuming on everyone's behalf.
As far as i know, volunteering to do something is never imposed on anyone. it is something you choose to commit to as an individual, so please, stop this issue of believing and assuming for others. After all, any mental, emotional and physical exhaustion is experienced by an individual not as a community.
Always speak for yourself on personal matters.
Mirriam.
On Tuesday, October 27, 2020, 8:47:15 AM GMT+3, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear Noah,
A Section of 3.4.1 of the CPM reads ... "The Working Group Chair(s) may request AFRINIC to provide an analysis (technical, financial, legal or other), of the impact of the draft policy proposal..."
We are in the process of asking AFRINIC to provide us with an analysis/advice of how to handle this proposal since a competing proposal is already in the last call.
The community is made up of volunteers whose time are very precious. We want to reduce community burnout as much as we can and avoid wasting any one's time. You would agree with me that if the proposal in the last call is ratified then discussing this other one would amount to a waste of time. We have earlier received an analysis/advice on this issue and we this morning received a more detailed analysis/advice on how to proceed with this proposal and we would like to discuss this with you (the authors) so that we are all on the same page going forward. Please give us a time that is most suitable for you (the authors) and we arrange a zoom meeting.
In the meantime, we shall continue to carry out the necessary background work on this proposal.
Please accept our apologies for any delay in communicating this to you.
Thanks
Co-Chair
PDWG
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 1:25 PM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
Hi Co-chairs,
The PDP does not allow Co-chairs to approve draft proposals submitted to the WG.
The draft proposal has been submitted and is under discussion as per section 3.4 of the CPM and must be published by AFRINIC staff.
Can you please tell the WG what you want to discuss with the authors during this call which we did try to discuss openly after you rejected our motivated submission for version 3.0 with the reasons being that the proposal had expired.
Cheers,
./noah
neo - network engineering and operations
On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 7:31 AM ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
Dear Noah,
It is not yet published because we are still looking into it and we are planning a meeting with the Authors sometime soon.
Thanks and Regards
Co-Chair
PDWG
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020, 19:20 Noah via pdwg, <pdwg at afrinic.net> wrote:
Attention PDWG Co-chairs,
Any reason this proposal has not been posted online on the AFRINIC website?
./noah
neo - network engineering and operations
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 4:03 PM Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
Dear Working Group/Co-Chairs,
A new policy proposal named "AFRINIC resources transfer policy" is submitted for discussions. This proposal obsoletes the current IPv4 transfer within AFRINIC service region policy, defines rules for transfers of IPv4 and ASNs within the region and between the AFRINIC service region and other regions.
The policy allows a category of resources to be transferred out of the region, another category of resources to be transferred inside and denies the transfer of certain resources.
We expect this to be a response to a harmonised policy which addresses some of the limitations of the intra-rir policy and proposes a solution for an inter-rir transfer which minimizes the foreseen risks of uncontrolled outflow of resources.
Please find the proposals text below and also attached pdf format.
Happiest Weekend,
Noah on behalf of
The Co-authors
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Policy Name: AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy
ID: (Assigned by AFRINIC)
Submission Date: 17 Oct 2020
Version: 1.0
Author(s): (a) Name, (b) Email address, (c) Affiliation, if applicable
Gregoire Olaotan Ehoumi, gregoire at ehoumi.net, independent
Noah Maina, noah.maina at seacom.com, SEACOM
Adeola A. P. Aina, alain.aina at wacren.net, WACREN
Sections of Policy Manual affected
Obsoletes: IPv4 Resources transfer within the AFRINIC Region (Section 5.7 of the CPM)
1.0 Summary of the problem being addressed by this proposal
The AFRINIC IPv4 pool is expected to run out soon. Some entities may need IPv4 space to support their IPv6 deployments, especially to support transition mechanisms, which AFRINIC may not meet. The current Intra-RIR policy in force at AFRINIC allows entities to receive unused IPv4 addresses from other members solely within the AFRINIC region, based on justified needs. Considering the limited IPv4 space initially made available to AFRINIC (AFRINIC manages only 7.23 /8s with a very low ratio of IPv4 addresses per Internet user), there will therefore be a need to allow for unused IPv4 from other regions to move into the AFRINIC service region °V this without necessarily depleting AFRINIC's slim amount of IPv4 addresses by transferring space out of the region. The current Intra-RIR transfer policy allows all types of IPv4 allocations/assignments to be transferred, including IPv4 from special purpose blocks (reserved blocks for IXPs and DNS root ops, Last /8, etc.) The current intra-RIR transfer policy does not cover ASNs while there are cases where transfers of ASNs among AFRINIC members is desirable.
2.0 Summary of how this proposal addresses the problem
This new policy defines a set of rules to allow transfer of IPv4 addresses and ASNs within the AFRINIC service region; and between the AFRINIC service region and other regions by specifying what categories of resources are eligible for transfer, the location of parties (sources and recipients) and the conditions to be met.
The policy segregates resources in different categories and defines which transfer rules apply to each category.
Only Legacy resources and resources transferred in from other regions will be transferable out of the AFRINIC service region.
The policy also makes the following provisions:
- Number resources are non-transferable unless AFRINIC has expressly and in writing approved a request for transfer. AFRINIC is tasked with making prudent decisions on whether to approve the transfer of number resources.
- IPv4 addresses and ASNs can be transferred only in accordance with this policy.
- AFRINIC does not recognize transfers outside of approved transfer policies and requires organizations holding such resources to return them to the appropriate registries.
The goal of this transfer policy is to help distribute resources from those who no longer need them to organizations that need the resources, but cannot obtain them from the AFRINIC free pools.
AFRINIC recognizes the following types of transfers:
- merger, acquisition, takeover or consolidation,
- between AFRINIC members,
- between an AFRINIC member and an organization in another region,
- between a Legacy resource holder and an AFRINIC member,
- between a Legacy resource holder and an organization in another region.
AFRINIC will process and record Inter-RIR resource transfers only when the counterpart RIR has an Inter-RIR transfer policy that permits the transfer of IPv4 address space and ASNs between its own region and AFRINIC. Currently, the other regions are APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, RIPE NCC.
3.0 Proposal
Insert the following text into the CPM (numbering to be changed by staff as appropriate):
3.1 Definitions
3.1.1 "Resource" refers to IPv4 Address space or Autonomous System Numbers.
"AFRINIC pool" means the AFRINIC managed pool of IPv4 and ASNs, obtained from IANA (allocated and recovered) or through the ERX (Early registration transfers).
3.1.2 "Special-Purpose pool" means the pool of resources currently reserved for Critical Internet Infrastructures (section 5.6.4 of CPM) and resources distributed during the Exhaustion phases of the soft landing policy (section 5.4 of CPM).
3.1.3 "Legacy resources" refer to resources allocated prior to the RIR system and tagged as Legacy by AFRINIC.
3.1.4 "Others" means resources transferred from other regions through Inter-RIR transfers.
3.1.5 "Inter-RIR transfer" means the transfer of resources from a resource holder in the AFRINIC service region to an organization in another region or vice-versa.
3.2 Marking of the resources
AFRINIC pool == Regional
Special-Purpose pool == Reserved
Legacy == Legacy
Others == Global
3.3 Rules and procedures for selecting resources eligible for transfers
3.3.1 If source and recipient are AFRINIC members, then allow "Regional", "Global" or "Legacy" for transfer and mark transferred "Legacy" as "Global".
3.3.2 If source is Legacy holder and recipient is AFRINIC member, then allow "Legacy" for transfer and mark transferred resources as "Global".
3.3.3 If source is Legacy holder and recipient is in another region, then allow "Legacy" for transfer.
3.3.4 If source is AFRINIC member and recipient is in another region, then allow "Global" for transfer.
3.3.5 If source is from another region and recipient is AFRINIC member, then allow "Any", and then mark the transferred resources as "Global".
3.3.6 Irrespective of the source and recipient, if the resource to be transferred is "Reserved" then deny transfer. This restriction excludes mergers, acquisitions and takeover transfers.
3.4 Conditions on resources to be transferred
- The size of the IPv4 address prefix should be a minimum of /24.
- The resource must qualify for the type of transfer requested.
- The resource will be covered by AFRINIC policies after transfer into the region.
3.5 Conditions on the source
- Must be the right holder of the resources to be transferred with no disputes.
- If the source is from other regions, conditions on the source are defined in the counterpart RIRs transfer policy.
3.6 Conditions on the recipient
- Will be subject to current AFRINIC policies.
- Must sign RSA.
- Recipient that does not have prior resources must:
++ demonstrate a detailed plan for the use of the transferred resources
(in the case of ASN, the recipient must meet the criteria for assignment of ASN).
- Recipient with prior resources must:
++ demonstrate a detailed plan for the use of the transferred resources
(in the case of ASN, the recipient must meet the criteria for assignment of ASN).
++ Show past usage rate.
++ Provide evidence of compliance with AFRINIC policies with respect to past allocations/assignments.
- If the recipient is in another region, the conditions on the recipient are defined in the counterparts RIR transfer policy.
4. References
https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO-Statistics-2019Q2.pdf
https://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/
https://bgp.potaroo.net/iso3166/v4cc.html
https://resources.potaroo.net/iso3166/ascc.html
ftp://ftp.afrinic.net/stats/afrinic/transfers/
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