[rpd] Reversal of Consensus on Resource Transfer Policy

[Frank Habicht]

Lamiaa,

On 18/10/2020 17:49, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:
...

> It is not my job to keep giving lessons on this list, but It is very

> important for everyone to learn how to talk and converse in a way that

> does not make the other person uncomfortable, belittled, offended or

> underestimated. This is what we refer to as "respect" and it's the

> essence of any fair and open discussion.

> 

> You can still disagree, all while keeping it professional and respectful.


Thank you for all the lessons you have given us so far.
Respectfully: there might be a difference in your and my opinion
regarding how many more lessons this work group needs ..... from you.
I trust you're aware that this WG has elected co-chairs.

Frank


> 

> Regards,

> 

> Lamiaa

> 

> Le dim. 18 oct. 2020 à 12:46, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com

> <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>> a écrit :

> 

>     Lamiaa 

> 

>     Thanks for confirming (yet again) to the list members that you and

>     several others seem to serve as an echo chamber for each other and

>     for little other purpose - other than an attempt to manipulate the PDP.

> 

>     Objectively there was nothing offensive or constituting a personal

>     attack in what Fernando said and attempting to amplify that lie is

>     offensive to all of us who engage in robust discussion on this list.

> 

>     As for your opinions on the appeal, frankly they are irrelevant.

>     Hopefully the appeal committee will be objective and not manipulated

>     by your echo chamber.

> 

>     While I appreciate the co-chairs extension of the last call period,

>     as others have pointed out, the extension does not substantively

>     change the decision against which the appeal has been lodged.

> 

>     Mike

> 

>     Sitting back and waiting for the flames from the sock puppet echo

>     chamber 

> 

>     On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 12:35, Lamiaa Chnayti

>     <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> wrote:

> 

>         Hello Fernando,

> 

>         First of all, I would like to report to the chairs your improper

>         behaviour that consists of personally attacking and offending

>         Lucilla. This should be taken seriously and shouldn’t go

>         unnoticed so as to maintain a fair and sensible discussion on

>         the list.

> 

>         I would also like to point out that now that the chairs have

>         amended their decision, the appeal has become invalid. 

> 

>         Please start showing a little respect for what the chairs are

>         doing. Everything they voluntarily do is for the sake of this

>         community.

> 

>         Regards,

> 

>         Lamiaa

> 

>         Le dim. 18 oct. 2020 à 00:20, Fernando Frediani

>         <fhfrediani at gmail.com <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> a écrit :

> 

>             Do not deceive yourself. There is an appeal ongoing before

>             any possible ratification.

> 

>             Fernando

> 

> 

>             On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 20:12 lucilla fornaro,

>             <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com

>             <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>> wrote:

> 

>                 No, what I meant is that we’ve been discussing for

>                 weeks, the end of the last call has been already announced. 

>                 Co-chairs shouldn’t make any changes to that decision.

>                 The policy shall now move to ratification. 

> 

> 

>                 Regards,

> 

>                 Lucilla 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>                 *Da:* dc at darwincosta.com <mailto:dc at darwincosta.com>

>                 <dc at darwincosta.com <mailto:dc at darwincosta.com>>

>                 *Inviato:* domenica, ottobre 18, 2020 2:49 AM

>                 *A:* lucilla fornaro

>                 *Cc:* ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE; rpd List

>                 *Oggetto:* Re: [rpd] Reversal of Consensus on Resource

>                 Transfer Policy

>                  

> 

>>                 On 17 Oct 2020, at 19:36, lucilla fornaro

>>                 <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com

>>                 <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>>                 

>>                 Dear Co-chair, dear community,

>>

>>                 I disagree with this extension of one week. I don’t

>>                 see how this further week can do any good to a

>>                 discussion that has already reached its purpose.

>>                 It is clear that the community members have had

>>                 exhaustive time to discuss the policy.

>>

>>                 The end of the last call for this policy has already

>>                 been declared and we should keep moving forward from that.

>                 I guess you meant send it back to discussion? I have

>                 previously asked the Co-chair to share with the

>                 community facts & figures on how this proposal have

>                 reached consensus... Until now, we have not seen nothing

>                 on this regards... 

> 

>                 Luckily there is an appeal submitted.

>>

>>

>>                 Regards,

>>

>>                 Lucilla 

> 

>                 Regards,

>                 Darwin-.

> 

>>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>                 *Da:* ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng

>>                 <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>>

>>                 *Inviato:* domenica, ottobre 18, 2020 1:03 AM

>>                 *A:* rpd List

>>                 *Oggetto:* [rpd] Reversal of Consensus on Resource

>>                 Transfer Policy

>>                  

>>                 Dear colleagues,

>>

>>                 Despite our belief that this policy has covered almost

>>                 all of the concerns raised especially the major

>>                 objections, we would like to give the community more

>>                 time to discern after considering the community's

>>                 feedback on the consensus declared on the  Resource

>>                 Transfer Polic. 

>>

>>                 We, the co-chairs, have changed our decision and opt

>>                 to extend the last call for one more week for

>>                 prudence's sake. 

>>

>>                 Thank you.

>>

>>                 Co-Chair 

>>                 PDWG

>>

>>

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