[rpd] Reversal of Consensus on Resource Transfer Policy

Sun Oct 18 16:05:12 UTC 2020

Lamiaa,

On 18/10/2020 17:49, Lamiaa Chnayti wrote:
...
> It is not my job to keep giving lessons on this list, but It is very
> important for everyone to learn how to talk and converse in a way that
> does not make the other person uncomfortable, belittled, offended or
> underestimated. This is what we refer to as "respect" and it's the
> essence of any fair and open discussion.
> 
> You can still disagree, all while keeping it professional and respectful.

Thank you for all the lessons you have given us so far.
Respectfully: there might be a difference in your and my opinion
regarding how many more lessons this work group needs ..... from you.
I trust you're aware that this WG has elected co-chairs.

Frank

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Lamiaa
> 
> Le dim. 18 oct. 2020 à 12:46, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com
> <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>> a écrit :
> 
>     Lamiaa 
> 
>     Thanks for confirming (yet again) to the list members that you and
>     several others seem to serve as an echo chamber for each other and
>     for little other purpose - other than an attempt to manipulate the PDP.
> 
>     Objectively there was nothing offensive or constituting a personal
>     attack in what Fernando said and attempting to amplify that lie is
>     offensive to all of us who engage in robust discussion on this list.
> 
>     As for your opinions on the appeal, frankly they are irrelevant.
>     Hopefully the appeal committee will be objective and not manipulated
>     by your echo chamber.
> 
>     While I appreciate the co-chairs extension of the last call period,
>     as others have pointed out, the extension does not substantively
>     change the decision against which the appeal has been lodged.
> 
>     Mike
> 
>     Sitting back and waiting for the flames from the sock puppet echo
>     chamber 
> 
>     On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 12:35, Lamiaa Chnayti
>     <lamiaachnayti at gmail.com <mailto:lamiaachnayti at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Hello Fernando,
> 
>         First of all, I would like to report to the chairs your improper
>         behaviour that consists of personally attacking and offending
>         Lucilla. This should be taken seriously and shouldn’t go
>         unnoticed so as to maintain a fair and sensible discussion on
>         the list.
> 
>         I would also like to point out that now that the chairs have
>         amended their decision, the appeal has become invalid. 
> 
>         Please start showing a little respect for what the chairs are
>         doing. Everything they voluntarily do is for the sake of this
>         community.
> 
>         Regards,
> 
>         Lamiaa
> 
>         Le dim. 18 oct. 2020 à 00:20, Fernando Frediani
>         <fhfrediani at gmail.com <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> a écrit :
> 
>             Do not deceive yourself. There is an appeal ongoing before
>             any possible ratification.
> 
>             Fernando
> 
> 
>             On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, 20:12 lucilla fornaro,
>             <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com
>             <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>                 No, what I meant is that we’ve been discussing for
>                 weeks, the end of the last call has been already announced. 
>                 Co-chairs shouldn’t make any changes to that decision.
>                 The policy shall now move to ratification. 
> 
> 
>                 Regards,
> 
>                 Lucilla 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                 *Da:* dc at darwincosta.com <mailto:dc at darwincosta.com>
>                 <dc at darwincosta.com <mailto:dc at darwincosta.com>>
>                 *Inviato:* domenica, ottobre 18, 2020 2:49 AM
>                 *A:* lucilla fornaro
>                 *Cc:* ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE; rpd List
>                 *Oggetto:* Re: [rpd] Reversal of Consensus on Resource
>                 Transfer Policy
>                  
> 
>>                 On 17 Oct 2020, at 19:36, lucilla fornaro
>>                 <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 
>>                 Dear Co-chair, dear community,
>>
>>                 I disagree with this extension of one week. I don’t
>>                 see how this further week can do any good to a
>>                 discussion that has already reached its purpose.
>>                 It is clear that the community members have had
>>                 exhaustive time to discuss the policy.
>>
>>                 The end of the last call for this policy has already
>>                 been declared and we should keep moving forward from that.
>                 I guess you meant send it back to discussion? I have
>                 previously asked the Co-chair to share with the
>                 community facts & figures on how this proposal have
>                 reached consensus... Until now, we have not seen nothing
>                 on this regards... 
> 
>                 Luckily there is an appeal submitted.
>>
>>
>>                 Regards,
>>
>>                 Lucilla 
> 
>                 Regards,
>                 Darwin-.
> 
>>                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                 *Da:* ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng
>>                 <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>>
>>                 *Inviato:* domenica, ottobre 18, 2020 1:03 AM
>>                 *A:* rpd List
>>                 *Oggetto:* [rpd] Reversal of Consensus on Resource
>>                 Transfer Policy
>>                  
>>                 Dear colleagues,
>>
>>                 Despite our belief that this policy has covered almost
>>                 all of the concerns raised especially the major
>>                 objections, we would like to give the community more
>>                 time to discern after considering the community's
>>                 feedback on the consensus declared on the  Resource
>>                 Transfer Polic. 
>>
>>                 We, the co-chairs, have changed our decision and opt
>>                 to extend the last call for one more week for
>>                 prudence's sake. 
>>
>>                 Thank you.
>>
>>                 Co-Chair 
>>                 PDWG
>>
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