[rpd] Abuse Contact Policy

[Mark Elkins]

Haha - Mike the Lawyer saying that. I totally agree with you!

On 2020/09/17 14:24, Mike Silber wrote:

> Hi Jaco

>

> While we must appreciate all inputs, I get very concerned when people 

> who do not operate networks start talking about the operational 

> resource issues involved in network operations.

>

> If the concern was on a policy level, rather than operational - I 

> would give it greater consideration.

>

> Just my 2c, no doubt will be flamed.

>

> Mike

>

>> On 17 Sep 2020, at 14:16, Jaco Kroon <jaco at uls.co.za 

>> <mailto:jaco at uls.co.za>> wrote:

>>

>> Hi,

>>

>> Having been on the receiving side of identifiable sources of "bad" 

>> traffic, and not being able to locate abuse contacts for the origin 

>> network, I'm in support of this policy.

>>

>> I would like to find out how this policy can conceivably lead to any 

>> waste of resources?  As I see it you need to make sure your abuse 

>> contact details are published in the whois database.

>>

>> Hooking this in with the dashboard policy, this is something that can 

>> (and should be) checked automatically, further more, as per ISPA 

>> checks in SA even validating that the emails are being read and 

>> responded to by a human can be automated fairly quickly, and hooked 

>> into any dashboard or automated notification system to ensure that 

>> LIRs are aware of problems before Afrinic needs to get involved.

>>

>> In the bigger scheme of things, this policy is more likely to save 

>> resources rather than waste them.  If you've ever been on the 

>> receiving end of things you'll know exactly what I mean.

>>

>> Kind Regards,

>> Jaco

>>

>> On 2020/09/17 11:44, Precious Paul wrote:

>>

>>>

>>> As mentioned in the above points the resources poured into this new 

>>> version of the policy  would most likely lead to a huge waste of 

>>> resources, which could and should be used at other policies and 

>>> parts of the organization

>>>

>>> Best Regards,

>>> Precious Paul.

>>>

>>>

>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 1:19 AM lucilla fornaro 

>>> <lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com 

>>> <mailto:lucillafornarosawamoto at gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>>     Dear all,

>>>

>>>     I have some concerns about the “Abuse Contact Policy”.

>>>     First of all, it does not offer a specific and regulated

>>>     description of the term “abuse”  and this opens the door to

>>>     potentially bigger problems: a surplus of reports,

>>>     discrimination/legal issues, and a waste of resources. Around

>>>     the world, we can perceive what abuse is in very different ways.

>>>

>>>     Afrinic is not entitled to force members to report abuses and

>>>     most importantly, this proposal does not represent Afrinic’s

>>>     purpose.

>>>

>>>     I, therefore, oppose this policy.

>>>

>>>

>>>     Thank you,

>>>

>>>     Lucilla

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