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[rpd] Policy Compliance Dashboard
Frank Habicht
geier at geier.ne.tz
Thu Sep 17 05:25:54 UTC 2020
Hi,
If I understand right (Google translate...), then you say that
- it is not for this PDWG, but AfriNIC staff internally to decide
- given funds, time and practical possibility, you support this to be
done
right?
Thanks,
Frank
On 17/09/2020 04:35, Marius Andioc via RPD wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> Concernant le coût, je pense qu'au contraire celui-ci doit rentrer en
> ligne de compte. Le principe d'un choix, d'un trade off, est que nous
> aurons à choisir une politique plutôt qu'une autre (si ce n'est pas
> immédiat c'est un choix entre cette politique aujourd'hui et une autre
> demain).
> Les moyens d'AFRINIC ne sont pas illimités, nous avons tout intérêt à
> choisir avec prudence ce qui est réalisé. Ici plus que le coût de
> manière absolue, c'est le rapport coût/0 ou très peu de bénéfice qui
> m'évoque un simple gaspillage (de temps, de moyens et d'énergie, pas
> uniquement une question de coût chiffré).
> Pour résumer : le coût en lui même n'est pas tant un problème, mais le
> rapport coût / bénéfice en est un. Si cette politique ne nécessitait
> qu'une case à cocher dans une application pour se réaliser il n'y aurait
> pas ou peu d'opposition.
> Je souhaite enfin rajouter que les modalités opérationnelles et les
> services d'AFRINIC ne sont pas de notre ressort. Nous devons nous
> concentrer sur son rôle: celui de registre. Cette proposition n'est pas
> une politique mais une proposition opérationnelle et elle n'a donc pas
> grand chose à faire ici.
>
> Je vous souhaite une excellente journée,
>
> Marius Andioc
>
> Le 16 sept. 2020 22:58, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> a
> écrit :
>
> The RSA is an overall umbrella set by the members, and is not complete.
>
>
>
> The PDP is a higher-level set by the community, as complete as we wish.
>
>
>
> I think many participants still get confused with that. The PDP
> state what rules the community want to be followed, verified, etc.
>
>
>
> The PDP affects **all**, while the RSA only affects members.
>
>
>
> The community is on **top** of the membership. So, the community is
> free to agree on rules **over the RSA**, especially when the RSA is
> not sufficiently clear.
>
>
>
> And one more point that I was not able to respond in the chat. The
> PDP, and thus the policy proposals, can’t consider **cost** (I
> disagree that this will be a too high cost), because the cost is a
> matter of the membership. This is why the **board** must ratify a
> policy once it reaches consensus, because if the board believes that
> the cost is too high (vs the benefits), they can bring the proposal
> back to discussion to the community. So “cost” (especially if not
> demonstrated), can’t be accepted as a valid objection towards
> consensus. Otherwise, **any** member can block **any** proposal from
> the community **because of cost** (even if untrue)!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El 16/9/20 15:44, "Eucharia Maryann" <eucharianene at gmail.com
> <mailto:eucharianene at gmail.com>> escribió:
>
>
>
> AFRINIC services are provided to members under the umbrella of the
> RSA mandate, which in turn ask for compliance with policies.
>
> Those policies are documented in the CPM, which is continuously
> updated by the PDP.
>
> If the above actually already exist in the RSA and in the CPM, then
> what's the essence of this policy or is it that we love repeating
> same thing all the time or we are just interested in having so many
> duplicated policies and rules.
>
> Please I cannot see the relevance of this policy. Thanks
>
> Simply Eucharia.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2020 13:00, <rpd-request at afrinic.net
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> 1. Re: Policy Compliance Dashboard - AFPUB-2020-GEN-001-DRAFT01
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> AFPUB-2020-GEN-001-DRAFT01
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> Dear all,This "POLICY COMPLIANCE DASHBOARD" seems to me a case
> of misplaced priorities. It will surely lead to complexities and
> unnecessary dissipation of energy and limited resources because
> AFRINIC? should already be keeping track of the policy
> violation.?In essence, I DO NOT see the purpose of such policy
> here. Therefore, I DO NOT SUPPORT it. Thank you.
> Adepetun OluwaseunSystem Analyst & ProgrammerEPETUKU
> TECHNOLOGIESAbuja, Nigeria
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> On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 5:24 PM, Gaby
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