[rpd] Policy Compliance Dashboard

[Frank Habicht]

Hi,

If I understand right (Google translate...), then you say that
- it is not for this PDWG, but AfriNIC staff internally to decide
- given funds, time and practical possibility, you support this to be
   done

right?

Thanks,
Frank


On 17/09/2020 04:35, Marius Andioc via RPD wrote:

> Bonjour, 

> 

> Concernant le coût, je pense qu'au contraire celui-ci doit rentrer en

> ligne de compte. Le principe d'un choix, d'un trade off, est que nous

> aurons à choisir une politique plutôt qu'une autre (si ce n'est pas

> immédiat c'est un choix entre cette politique aujourd'hui et une autre

> demain). 

> Les moyens d'AFRINIC ne sont pas illimités, nous avons tout intérêt à

> choisir avec prudence ce qui est réalisé. Ici plus que le coût de

> manière absolue, c'est le rapport coût/0 ou très peu de bénéfice qui

> m'évoque un simple gaspillage (de temps, de moyens et d'énergie, pas

> uniquement une question de coût chiffré). 

> Pour résumer : le coût en lui même n'est pas tant un problème, mais le

> rapport coût / bénéfice en est un. Si cette politique ne nécessitait

> qu'une case à cocher dans une application pour se réaliser il n'y aurait

> pas ou peu d'opposition. 

> Je souhaite enfin rajouter que les modalités opérationnelles et les

> services d'AFRINIC ne sont pas de notre ressort. Nous devons nous

> concentrer sur son rôle: celui de registre. Cette proposition n'est pas

> une politique mais une proposition opérationnelle et elle n'a donc pas

> grand chose à faire ici. 

> 

> Je vous souhaite une excellente journée, 

> 

> Marius Andioc 

> 

> Le 16 sept. 2020 22:58, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> a

> écrit :

> 

>     The RSA is an overall umbrella set by the members, and is not complete.

> 

>      

> 

>     The PDP is a higher-level set by the community, as complete as we wish.

> 

>      

> 

>     I think many participants still get confused with that. The PDP

>     state what rules the community want to be followed, verified, etc.

> 

>      

> 

>     The PDP affects **all**, while the RSA only affects members.

> 

>      

> 

>     The community is on **top** of the membership. So, the community is

>     free to agree on rules **over the RSA**, especially when the RSA is

>     not sufficiently clear.

> 

>      

> 

>     And one more point that I was not able to respond in the chat. The

>     PDP, and thus the policy proposals, can’t consider **cost** (I

>     disagree that this will be a too high cost), because the cost is a

>     matter of the membership. This is why the **board** must ratify a

>     policy once it reaches consensus, because if the board believes that

>     the cost is too high (vs the benefits), they can bring the proposal

>     back to discussion to the community. So “cost” (especially if not

>     demonstrated), can’t be accepted as a valid objection towards

>     consensus. Otherwise, **any** member can block **any** proposal from

>     the community **because of cost** (even if untrue)!

> 

>      

> 

>     Regards,

> 

>     Jordi

> 

>     @jordipalet

> 

>      

> 

>      

> 

>      

> 

>     El 16/9/20 15:44, "Eucharia Maryann" <eucharianene at gmail.com

>     <mailto:eucharianene at gmail.com>> escribió:

> 

>      

> 

>     AFRINIC services are provided to members under the umbrella of the

>     RSA mandate, which in turn ask for compliance with policies. 

> 

>     Those policies are documented in the CPM, which is continuously

>     updated by the PDP.

> 

>     If the above actually already exist in the RSA and in the CPM, then

>     what's the essence of this policy or is it that we love repeating

>     same thing all the time or we are just interested in having so many

>     duplicated policies and rules.

> 

>     Please I cannot see the relevance of this policy. Thanks

> 

>     Simply Eucharia.

> 

>      

> 

>      

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>         <mailto:gabyginernetwork at gmail.com>>,  JORDI

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>         Dear all,This "POLICY COMPLIANCE DASHBOARD" seems to me a case

>         of misplaced priorities. It will surely lead to complexities and

>         unnecessary dissipation of energy and limited resources because

>         AFRINIC? should already be keeping track of the policy

>         violation.?In essence, I DO NOT see the purpose of such policy

>         here. Therefore, I DO NOT SUPPORT it. Thank you.

>         Adepetun OluwaseunSystem Analyst & ProgrammerEPETUKU

>         TECHNOLOGIESAbuja, Nigeria

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