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[rpd] Policy Development Process and Elections

Dewole Ajao dewole at forum.org.ng
Sat Aug 15 13:02:34 UTC 2020


Looks like you misinterpreted paragraph "g", Jordi.

(g)  .... AFRINIC undertakes to preserve this right so that *no one who
has recently subscribed* to the rpd mail list *will be debarred and/or
‘disenfranchised’ *from participating in the Policy Development Process.

I interpreted it to mean: EVERYONE who has recently subscribed to the
rpd will be allowed to participate in the elections.

Regards,

Dewole.

On 8/15/2020 1:24 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:

>

> Hi Noah,

>

> The ICP-2 is very clear on this and we all, should know it very well.

> It is a very well understood concept in all the RIRs. In fact, the

> message from Eddy recognized that as well.

>

> The PDP is the **global community**, while the board is only a

> representation of a small subset of the community: the members of only

> AFRINIC region.

>

> I guess the bylaws were created before the constitution of AFRINIC, or

> in the very early stage. I don’t know if there is a document that

> shows all the history of this document and all the modifications (if

> any) that have been done since them.

>

> The board is **only** able to setup rules for the membership.

>

> The PDP has a “higher” scope: as it sets rules for all.

>

> When you say “The volunteers at the board are given the mandate by the

> community. The community includes number resources members who form

> part of the community.”, is wrong in the first sentence “the

> volunteers at the board are given the mandate by the membership” and

> the membership is only responsible for membership issues. That’s why

> is totally wrong to have in the bylaws (which are for membership),

> text impossing rules to the community (which should be at the PDP).

>

> Following with your next paragraph, the bylaws are wrong. There is NO

> WAY, the bylaws can enforce what the community (PDP) want to do. The

> bylaws can only enforce the membership.

>

> And yes, the board can be wrong, and it is perfectly fine, and I’m

> convinced they always act in good faith and try to do what they

> believe is best for membership, but this is not neccesarily correct or

> the best for the community. Exactly the same like a partliament in a

> country, which represents the citizens, can be wrong, and that’s why,

> courts, could decide that something that the parliament has decided,

> need to be amended.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El 15/8/20 14:04, "Noah" <noah at neo.co.tz <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>>

> escribió:

>

> Hi Jordi

>

> The volunteers at the board are given the mandate by the community.

> The community includes number resources members who form part of the

> community.

>

> And when you say the volunteers at the board  are wrong, and the

> bylaws are wrong, do you mean the community is wrong?

>

> Noah

>

> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020, 08:06 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD,

> <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

>

> Hi Eddy, all,

>

> While I fully agree that it is perfectly appropriate for the Board

> to decide on the way co-chairs elections are done and even more in

> this exceptional situation, I think there are some broken

> statements in this email.

>

> AFRINIC bylaws, in my opinion, are in trouble and against ICANN

> ICP-2, because are contradicting the consensus and bottom-up

> approach of the PDP and consequently the co-chairs elections. I

> will urge to update them.

>

> As a matter of fact, the articles in section 11 related to the PDP

> don’t exist in any other RIR (I’ve read all them again a few

> minutes ago, just in case I was missing anything), neiher anything

> similar. Unfortunatelly I only realized this a couple of days ago,

> when I was preparing a policy proposal that is not yet published.

>

> Note, and this is not your fault, but from previous boards, that

> the board has decided on changes and restrictions to the PDP and

> contravenued the bylaws, because the board never brought those

> “policies” or “procedures” to the PDP to be endorsed (by

> consensus) by the community. Wait for my last proposal to be

> published for more details.

>

> Let me clarify, below in-line each of the points.

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

> El 14/8/20 14:49, "AFRINIC Communication" <comms at afrinic.net

> <mailto:comms at afrinic.net>> escribió:

>

> [Version en français ci-dessous]

>

> Dear colleagues,

>

> Further to its communique issued on 5 August 2020, AFRINIC wishes

> to inform its community that following its announcement regarding

> the holding of the Policy Development Working

> Group (“PDWG”) Co-Chair and NRO ASO-AC elections for the year

> 2020, it has considered all responses obtained in respect thereof.

>

> Consequently, AFRINIC considers it appropriate to clarify, for the

> benefits of its community, the following:

>

> (a)   That the Public Policy Meeting (“PPM”) is convened by the

> AFRINIC Board of Directors pursuant to the provisions of articles

> 11.2 and 11.3 of the Bylaws;

>

> [Jordi] This is wrong, and should be corrected. A RIR is only

> assisting the community in terms of PDP. It is up to the community

> to decide how this is done and what the community wants to be done

> by the RIR. The community can agree that the elections are handled

> by the AFRINIC board and that the board can delegate into a

> committee. That’s fine and I think is the correct way, but can’t

> be imposed to the community. Those articles should NOT be there.

> They don’t exist in any other RIR. It is a big mistake. I also

> fully support, that the PDP **must have** some special provisions

> to give the board some powers on:

>

> 1.Call for the PDP meetings.

>

> 2.Assist/manage the co-chair elections by means of the PDP decided

> procedure. If there is not a procedure, this is the community

> fault and thus the board should be able to decide how to do it.

>

> 3.Allow an appeal process (by the board or delegated into a

> committee), but following the PDP, not restricting it.

>

> 4.Ratify policies. Only policies that will clearly damage the RIR

> membership can’t be ratified and should be returned to the PDP for

> further discussion.

>

> 5.In emergency situations, adopt a policy **regarding the

> management of resources** (not the PDP), **which must be brought

> to the PDP back for the community consensus/endorsement**

> otherwise must be stopped.

>

> [Jordi] In addition to that, the bylaws are discriminatory and

> CLEARLY against the ICP-2 and this is a **BIG** irregularity and

> breach of the ICANN empowerment assigned to AFRINIC. THIS MUST BE

> RESOLVED IMMEDIATELY. The section 3 of ICP-2 is clear in many

> paragraphs in regards to the bottom-up self-governance for setting

> local policies “accessible to all interested parties”. The bylaws,

> clearly contradict the PDP, and that should **not** happen.

>

>

> (b)  That in regard to the election of the PDWG Co-Chair and

> notwithstanding the fact same is held during the PPM, section 3.1

> of the Consolidated Policy Manual (“CPM”) clearly and in no

> uncertain terms provides as follows: - “Internet number resource

> policies are distinctly separate from AFRINIC general business

> practices and procedures. General business practices and

> procedures are not within the purview of the Policy Development

> Process.

>

> [Jordi] And that clearly means that the PDP, neither the bylaws

> have authorized the board to take over the elections. The

> elections of the co-chairs, as the co-chairs itself, are part of

> the PDP. Again, I agree that meanwhile we don’t have in the PDP an

> explicit procedure, it is just fine to allow the board to assist

> on that and manage the elections. BUT this should be corrected

> ASAP by the community.

>

>

> (c)   That in light of para (b) above, the election process

> applicable to the PDWG Co-Chair election does not form an integral

> part of the CPM and is thus a matter for the Board of Directors to

> determine;

>

> [Jordi] I disagree. The chair position is a mandate of the PDP.

> Just look into other RIRs. Is the community the one that manages

> that. The board of each RIR is just delegated by the PDP to do

> that, as an oversight. And still note that I’m supporting, at the

> time being, the board decision on the way to do the next

> elections, but that’s different than confirming that this is a

> business of the board **unless** that task is delegated by the

> community to the board.

>

>

> (d)  That, consistent with the above and having considered the

> exceptional context of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Board

> of Directors recently resolved, inter-alia, that the forthcoming

> PPM will be held virtually and has even caused an Election Process

> 2020 to be published applicable to all elections to be held during

> the year 2020;

>

> (e)   That in so far as the role of the PDWG is concerned, the

> core responsibility of the latter is to discuss policy proposals

> via the Internet (mailing list) or in person (during

> face-to-face PPM). Hence, since time restrictions are prevalent

> for the policy discussions during the PPM, rough consensus of

> policy proposals is determined during the PPM by considering both

> online and on-site contributions. Final consensus is decided upon

> after consideration of the discussions in the Last Call period;

>

> [Jordi] Fully agree here on the matter of time. It is ridiculous

> the time that was spent in the PPMs in previous meetings for

> elections. They should be from now on, regardless of the pandemic,

> electronic and open to non-on-site participants. HOWEVER,

> according to the actual PDP the consensus is determined only,

> according to the actual PDP “during the PPM”, and that’s why I’ve

> proposed a PDP change so it is explicitly clear that also the

> discussion on the list must be considered for the consensus.

>

>

> (f)   That the right attributed to its community to contribute

> to policy discussions by either subscribing to the rpd mailing

> list or participating in the discussions in the upcoming PPM by

> registering for and attending the online meeting is sacrosanct

> and AFRINIC hereby renews its commitment that it will continue to

> give full effect to the principles of Policy Development

> as stipulated in section 3.2 of the CPM;

>

> (g)   That, for the purposes of para (e) above, subscription to

> the AFRINIC rpd mailing list is considered as a step towards

> participation in the PDWG and AFRINIC undertakes to preserve this

> right so that no one who has recently subscribed to the rpd mail

> list will be debarred and/or ‘disenfranchised’ from

> participating in the Policy Development Process.

>

> (h)  For purposes of clarity, below are subscription numbers from

> January 2019 to 13 August 2020.

>

> *2019*

>

>

>

> *Number*

>

> January

>

>

>

> 3

>

> February

>

>

>

> 8

>

> March

>

>

>

> 3

>

> April

>

>

>

> 9

>

> May

>

>

>

> 30

>

> June

>

>

>

> 53

>

> July

>

>

>

> 8

>

> August

>

>

>

> 11

>

> September

>

>

>

> 3

>

> October

>

>

>

> 4

>

> November

>

>

>

> 11

>

> December

>

>

>

> 18

>

>

>

>

> *2020*

>

>

>

> January

>

>

>

> 1

>

> February

>

>

>

> 13

>

> March

>

>

>

> 7

>

> April

>

>

>

> 2

>

> May

>

>

>

> 5

>

> June

>

>

>

> 9

>

> July

>

>

>

> 177

>

> August 13th 12:50 UTC

>

>

>

> 27

>

> *Current number of list subscribers*

>

>

>

> *986*

>

> [Jordi] I think it is obviously suspicious that suddenly there is

> such big increase in the registration on the RPD once it is

> announced that there may be a need to do online elections, and

> considering that at that time there was not any open discussion on

> policy proposals or new versions of existing ones. So, once more,

> I support the board decision on the procedure for the electronic

> elections and limiting the participation for those that are

> registered several months up-front them.

>

> On this note, AFRINIC encourages the PDWG to increase its

> engagement in the Policy Development Process through their active,

> substantial and constructive participation in developing resource

> policies that will help AFRINIC in its mission of

> managing Internet Number Resources for the African region.

>

> Furthermore, AFRINIC would like to take this opportunity to renew

> its invitation to the AIS’20 meeting and recommend that the

> community follows all procedures put in place for their online

> registration in respect thereof.

>

>

>

> Eddy Kayihura

>

> CEO

>

> ……………………

>

> Chers collègues,

>

> Suite à son communiqué publié le 5 août 2020, l'AFRINIC souhaite

> informer sa communauté que suite à son annonce concernant la tenue

> des élections du co-président du groupe de travail sur

> l'élaboration des politiques ("PDWG") et de l'ASO-AC du NRO pour

> l'année 2020, elle a examiné toutes les réponses obtenues à cet égard.

>

> En conséquence, AFRINIC considère qu'il convient de clarifier,

> pour le bénéfice de sa communauté, ce qui suit :

>

> (a) Que la réunion de politique publique ("PPM") est convoquée par

> le Conseil d'administration de l'AFRINIC conformément aux

> dispositions des articles 11.2 et 11.3 des statuts ;

>

> (b) En ce qui concerne l'élection du co-président du PDWG, et bien

> qu'elle ait lieu pendant la Réunion de politique publique, la

> section 3.1 du Consolidated Policy Manual ("CPM") prévoit

> clairement et sans ambiguïté ce qui suit : - "Les politiques en

> matière de ressources de numéros Internet se distinguent

> clairement des pratiques opérationnelles et des procédures

> générales d'AFRINIC, qui ne sont pas du resort du processus

> d'élaboration des politiques''.

>

> c) Qu'à la lumière du paragraphe b) ci-dessus, le processus

> d'élection applicable à l'élection du coprésident du PDWG ne fait

> pas partie intégrante du CPM et donc est du ressort du conseil

> d'administration ;

>

> (d) Que, conformément à ce qui précède et après avoir pris en

> compte le contexte exceptionnel de la pandémie COVID-19, le

> Conseil d'administration a récemment décidé, entre autres, que la

> prochaine réunion de politiques publiques se tiendra virtuellement

> et a même fait publier un processus pour les élections pour

> l'année 2020 applicable à toutes les élections devant se tenir en

> 2020 ;

>

> e) Que, en ce qui concerne le rôle du PDWG, la responsabilité

> principale de ce dernier est de discuter des propositions

> politiques via Internet (liste de diffusion) ou en personne (lors

> de la réunion en face-à-face). Par conséquent, étant donné que le

> temps imparti aux discussions politiques pendant la réunion est

> limité, un consensus approximatif sur les propositions politiques

> sera déterminé pendant la réunion en tenant compte des

> contributions en ligne et sur place. Le consensus final sera

> décidé après examen des discussions durant la période du dernier

> appel ;

>

> (f) que le droit attribué à sa communauté de contribuer aux

> discussions politiques, soit en s'inscrivant à la liste de

> diffusion rpd, soit en participant aux discussions de la prochaine

> Réunion de politiques publiques en s'inscrivant et en assistant à

> la réunion en ligne est sacro-saint et que l'AFRINIC renouvelle

> par la présente son engagement à continuer à donner plein effet

> aux principes d'élaboration des politiques comme stipulé dans la

> section 3.2 de la CPM ;

>

> (g) Que, aux fins du paragraphe (e) ci-dessus, l'inscription à la

> liste de diffusion rpd d'AFRINIC est considérée comme une étape

> vers la participation au PDWG et AFRINIC s'engage à préserver ce

> droit afin qu'aucune personne qui s'est récemment inscrite à la

> liste de diffusion rpd ne soit exclue et/ou "privée" de sa

> participation au processus d'élaboration des politiques.

>

> (h) Par souci de clarté, voici le nombre d'abonnement de janvier

> 2019 au 13 août 2020.

>

> *2019*

>

>

>

> *Nombres*

>

> Janvier

>

>

>

> 3

>

> Février

>

>

>

> 8

>

> Mars

>

>

>

> 3

>

> Avril

>

>

>

> 9

>

> Mai

>

>

>

> 30

>

> Juin

>

>

>

> 53

>

> Juillet

>

>

>

> 8

>

> Août

>

>

>

> 11

>

> Septembre

>

>

>

> 3

>

> Octobre

>

>

>

> 4

>

> Novembre

>

>

>

> 11

>

> December

>

>

>

> 18

>

>

>

>

> *2020*

>

>

>

> Janvier

>

>

>

> 1

>

> Février

>

>

>

> 13

>

> Mars

>

>

>

> 7

>

> Avril

>

>

>

> 2

>

> Mai

>

>

>

> 5

>

> Juin

>

>

>

> 9

>

> Juillet

>

>

>

> 177

>

> Août 13 12:50 UTC

>

>

>

> 27

>

> *Nombre d'abonnements actuels*

>

>

>

> *986*

>

> Sur cette note, AFRINIC encourage le PDWG à accroître son

> engagement dans le processus d'élaboration des politiques à

> travers leur participation active, substantielle et constructive

> dans l'élaboration des politiques de ressources qui contribueront

> à aider AFRINIC dans sa mission de gestion des ressources

> numériques Internet pour la région africaine.

>

> En outre, AFRINIC voudrait saisir cette occasion pour renouveler

> son invitation à la réunion de l'AIS'20 et recommander que la

> communauté suive toutes les procédures mises en place pour leur

> inscription en ligne à cet égard.

>

> Eddy Kayihura

>

> CEO

>

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