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[rpd] Policy Development Process and Elections
Dewole Ajao
dewole at forum.org.ng
Sat Aug 15 13:02:34 UTC 2020
Looks like you misinterpreted paragraph "g", Jordi.
(g) .... AFRINIC undertakes to preserve this right so that *no one who
has recently subscribed* to the rpd mail list *will be debarred and/or
‘disenfranchised’ *from participating in the Policy Development Process.
I interpreted it to mean: EVERYONE who has recently subscribed to the
rpd will be allowed to participate in the elections.
Regards,
Dewole.
On 8/15/2020 1:24 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD wrote:
>
> Hi Noah,
>
> The ICP-2 is very clear on this and we all, should know it very well.
> It is a very well understood concept in all the RIRs. In fact, the
> message from Eddy recognized that as well.
>
> The PDP is the **global community**, while the board is only a
> representation of a small subset of the community: the members of only
> AFRINIC region.
>
> I guess the bylaws were created before the constitution of AFRINIC, or
> in the very early stage. I don’t know if there is a document that
> shows all the history of this document and all the modifications (if
> any) that have been done since them.
>
> The board is **only** able to setup rules for the membership.
>
> The PDP has a “higher” scope: as it sets rules for all.
>
> When you say “The volunteers at the board are given the mandate by the
> community. The community includes number resources members who form
> part of the community.”, is wrong in the first sentence “the
> volunteers at the board are given the mandate by the membership” and
> the membership is only responsible for membership issues. That’s why
> is totally wrong to have in the bylaws (which are for membership),
> text impossing rules to the community (which should be at the PDP).
>
> Following with your next paragraph, the bylaws are wrong. There is NO
> WAY, the bylaws can enforce what the community (PDP) want to do. The
> bylaws can only enforce the membership.
>
> And yes, the board can be wrong, and it is perfectly fine, and I’m
> convinced they always act in good faith and try to do what they
> believe is best for membership, but this is not neccesarily correct or
> the best for the community. Exactly the same like a partliament in a
> country, which represents the citizens, can be wrong, and that’s why,
> courts, could decide that something that the parliament has decided,
> need to be amended.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El 15/8/20 14:04, "Noah" <noah at neo.co.tz <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>>
> escribió:
>
> Hi Jordi
>
> The volunteers at the board are given the mandate by the community.
> The community includes number resources members who form part of the
> community.
>
> And when you say the volunteers at the board are wrong, and the
> bylaws are wrong, do you mean the community is wrong?
>
> Noah
>
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020, 08:06 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD,
> <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Eddy, all,
>
> While I fully agree that it is perfectly appropriate for the Board
> to decide on the way co-chairs elections are done and even more in
> this exceptional situation, I think there are some broken
> statements in this email.
>
> AFRINIC bylaws, in my opinion, are in trouble and against ICANN
> ICP-2, because are contradicting the consensus and bottom-up
> approach of the PDP and consequently the co-chairs elections. I
> will urge to update them.
>
> As a matter of fact, the articles in section 11 related to the PDP
> don’t exist in any other RIR (I’ve read all them again a few
> minutes ago, just in case I was missing anything), neiher anything
> similar. Unfortunatelly I only realized this a couple of days ago,
> when I was preparing a policy proposal that is not yet published.
>
> Note, and this is not your fault, but from previous boards, that
> the board has decided on changes and restrictions to the PDP and
> contravenued the bylaws, because the board never brought those
> “policies” or “procedures” to the PDP to be endorsed (by
> consensus) by the community. Wait for my last proposal to be
> published for more details.
>
> Let me clarify, below in-line each of the points.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
> El 14/8/20 14:49, "AFRINIC Communication" <comms at afrinic.net
> <mailto:comms at afrinic.net>> escribió:
>
> [Version en français ci-dessous]
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Further to its communique issued on 5 August 2020, AFRINIC wishes
> to inform its community that following its announcement regarding
> the holding of the Policy Development Working
> Group (“PDWG”) Co-Chair and NRO ASO-AC elections for the year
> 2020, it has considered all responses obtained in respect thereof.
>
> Consequently, AFRINIC considers it appropriate to clarify, for the
> benefits of its community, the following:
>
> (a) That the Public Policy Meeting (“PPM”) is convened by the
> AFRINIC Board of Directors pursuant to the provisions of articles
> 11.2 and 11.3 of the Bylaws;
>
> [Jordi] This is wrong, and should be corrected. A RIR is only
> assisting the community in terms of PDP. It is up to the community
> to decide how this is done and what the community wants to be done
> by the RIR. The community can agree that the elections are handled
> by the AFRINIC board and that the board can delegate into a
> committee. That’s fine and I think is the correct way, but can’t
> be imposed to the community. Those articles should NOT be there.
> They don’t exist in any other RIR. It is a big mistake. I also
> fully support, that the PDP **must have** some special provisions
> to give the board some powers on:
>
> 1.Call for the PDP meetings.
>
> 2.Assist/manage the co-chair elections by means of the PDP decided
> procedure. If there is not a procedure, this is the community
> fault and thus the board should be able to decide how to do it.
>
> 3.Allow an appeal process (by the board or delegated into a
> committee), but following the PDP, not restricting it.
>
> 4.Ratify policies. Only policies that will clearly damage the RIR
> membership can’t be ratified and should be returned to the PDP for
> further discussion.
>
> 5.In emergency situations, adopt a policy **regarding the
> management of resources** (not the PDP), **which must be brought
> to the PDP back for the community consensus/endorsement**
> otherwise must be stopped.
>
> [Jordi] In addition to that, the bylaws are discriminatory and
> CLEARLY against the ICP-2 and this is a **BIG** irregularity and
> breach of the ICANN empowerment assigned to AFRINIC. THIS MUST BE
> RESOLVED IMMEDIATELY. The section 3 of ICP-2 is clear in many
> paragraphs in regards to the bottom-up self-governance for setting
> local policies “accessible to all interested parties”. The bylaws,
> clearly contradict the PDP, and that should **not** happen.
>
>
> (b) That in regard to the election of the PDWG Co-Chair and
> notwithstanding the fact same is held during the PPM, section 3.1
> of the Consolidated Policy Manual (“CPM”) clearly and in no
> uncertain terms provides as follows: - “Internet number resource
> policies are distinctly separate from AFRINIC general business
> practices and procedures. General business practices and
> procedures are not within the purview of the Policy Development
> Process.
>
> [Jordi] And that clearly means that the PDP, neither the bylaws
> have authorized the board to take over the elections. The
> elections of the co-chairs, as the co-chairs itself, are part of
> the PDP. Again, I agree that meanwhile we don’t have in the PDP an
> explicit procedure, it is just fine to allow the board to assist
> on that and manage the elections. BUT this should be corrected
> ASAP by the community.
>
>
> (c) That in light of para (b) above, the election process
> applicable to the PDWG Co-Chair election does not form an integral
> part of the CPM and is thus a matter for the Board of Directors to
> determine;
>
> [Jordi] I disagree. The chair position is a mandate of the PDP.
> Just look into other RIRs. Is the community the one that manages
> that. The board of each RIR is just delegated by the PDP to do
> that, as an oversight. And still note that I’m supporting, at the
> time being, the board decision on the way to do the next
> elections, but that’s different than confirming that this is a
> business of the board **unless** that task is delegated by the
> community to the board.
>
>
> (d) That, consistent with the above and having considered the
> exceptional context of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Board
> of Directors recently resolved, inter-alia, that the forthcoming
> PPM will be held virtually and has even caused an Election Process
> 2020 to be published applicable to all elections to be held during
> the year 2020;
>
> (e) That in so far as the role of the PDWG is concerned, the
> core responsibility of the latter is to discuss policy proposals
> via the Internet (mailing list) or in person (during
> face-to-face PPM). Hence, since time restrictions are prevalent
> for the policy discussions during the PPM, rough consensus of
> policy proposals is determined during the PPM by considering both
> online and on-site contributions. Final consensus is decided upon
> after consideration of the discussions in the Last Call period;
>
> [Jordi] Fully agree here on the matter of time. It is ridiculous
> the time that was spent in the PPMs in previous meetings for
> elections. They should be from now on, regardless of the pandemic,
> electronic and open to non-on-site participants. HOWEVER,
> according to the actual PDP the consensus is determined only,
> according to the actual PDP “during the PPM”, and that’s why I’ve
> proposed a PDP change so it is explicitly clear that also the
> discussion on the list must be considered for the consensus.
>
>
> (f) That the right attributed to its community to contribute
> to policy discussions by either subscribing to the rpd mailing
> list or participating in the discussions in the upcoming PPM by
> registering for and attending the online meeting is sacrosanct
> and AFRINIC hereby renews its commitment that it will continue to
> give full effect to the principles of Policy Development
> as stipulated in section 3.2 of the CPM;
>
> (g) That, for the purposes of para (e) above, subscription to
> the AFRINIC rpd mailing list is considered as a step towards
> participation in the PDWG and AFRINIC undertakes to preserve this
> right so that no one who has recently subscribed to the rpd mail
> list will be debarred and/or ‘disenfranchised’ from
> participating in the Policy Development Process.
>
> (h) For purposes of clarity, below are subscription numbers from
> January 2019 to 13 August 2020.
>
> *2019*
>
>
>
> *Number*
>
> January
>
>
>
> 3
>
> February
>
>
>
> 8
>
> March
>
>
>
> 3
>
> April
>
>
>
> 9
>
> May
>
>
>
> 30
>
> June
>
>
>
> 53
>
> July
>
>
>
> 8
>
> August
>
>
>
> 11
>
> September
>
>
>
> 3
>
> October
>
>
>
> 4
>
> November
>
>
>
> 11
>
> December
>
>
>
> 18
>
>
>
>
> *2020*
>
>
>
> January
>
>
>
> 1
>
> February
>
>
>
> 13
>
> March
>
>
>
> 7
>
> April
>
>
>
> 2
>
> May
>
>
>
> 5
>
> June
>
>
>
> 9
>
> July
>
>
>
> 177
>
> August 13th 12:50 UTC
>
>
>
> 27
>
> *Current number of list subscribers*
>
>
>
> *986*
>
> [Jordi] I think it is obviously suspicious that suddenly there is
> such big increase in the registration on the RPD once it is
> announced that there may be a need to do online elections, and
> considering that at that time there was not any open discussion on
> policy proposals or new versions of existing ones. So, once more,
> I support the board decision on the procedure for the electronic
> elections and limiting the participation for those that are
> registered several months up-front them.
>
> On this note, AFRINIC encourages the PDWG to increase its
> engagement in the Policy Development Process through their active,
> substantial and constructive participation in developing resource
> policies that will help AFRINIC in its mission of
> managing Internet Number Resources for the African region.
>
> Furthermore, AFRINIC would like to take this opportunity to renew
> its invitation to the AIS’20 meeting and recommend that the
> community follows all procedures put in place for their online
> registration in respect thereof.
>
>
>
> Eddy Kayihura
>
> CEO
>
> ……………………
>
> Chers collègues,
>
> Suite à son communiqué publié le 5 août 2020, l'AFRINIC souhaite
> informer sa communauté que suite à son annonce concernant la tenue
> des élections du co-président du groupe de travail sur
> l'élaboration des politiques ("PDWG") et de l'ASO-AC du NRO pour
> l'année 2020, elle a examiné toutes les réponses obtenues à cet égard.
>
> En conséquence, AFRINIC considère qu'il convient de clarifier,
> pour le bénéfice de sa communauté, ce qui suit :
>
> (a) Que la réunion de politique publique ("PPM") est convoquée par
> le Conseil d'administration de l'AFRINIC conformément aux
> dispositions des articles 11.2 et 11.3 des statuts ;
>
> (b) En ce qui concerne l'élection du co-président du PDWG, et bien
> qu'elle ait lieu pendant la Réunion de politique publique, la
> section 3.1 du Consolidated Policy Manual ("CPM") prévoit
> clairement et sans ambiguïté ce qui suit : - "Les politiques en
> matière de ressources de numéros Internet se distinguent
> clairement des pratiques opérationnelles et des procédures
> générales d'AFRINIC, qui ne sont pas du resort du processus
> d'élaboration des politiques''.
>
> c) Qu'à la lumière du paragraphe b) ci-dessus, le processus
> d'élection applicable à l'élection du coprésident du PDWG ne fait
> pas partie intégrante du CPM et donc est du ressort du conseil
> d'administration ;
>
> (d) Que, conformément à ce qui précède et après avoir pris en
> compte le contexte exceptionnel de la pandémie COVID-19, le
> Conseil d'administration a récemment décidé, entre autres, que la
> prochaine réunion de politiques publiques se tiendra virtuellement
> et a même fait publier un processus pour les élections pour
> l'année 2020 applicable à toutes les élections devant se tenir en
> 2020 ;
>
> e) Que, en ce qui concerne le rôle du PDWG, la responsabilité
> principale de ce dernier est de discuter des propositions
> politiques via Internet (liste de diffusion) ou en personne (lors
> de la réunion en face-à-face). Par conséquent, étant donné que le
> temps imparti aux discussions politiques pendant la réunion est
> limité, un consensus approximatif sur les propositions politiques
> sera déterminé pendant la réunion en tenant compte des
> contributions en ligne et sur place. Le consensus final sera
> décidé après examen des discussions durant la période du dernier
> appel ;
>
> (f) que le droit attribué à sa communauté de contribuer aux
> discussions politiques, soit en s'inscrivant à la liste de
> diffusion rpd, soit en participant aux discussions de la prochaine
> Réunion de politiques publiques en s'inscrivant et en assistant à
> la réunion en ligne est sacro-saint et que l'AFRINIC renouvelle
> par la présente son engagement à continuer à donner plein effet
> aux principes d'élaboration des politiques comme stipulé dans la
> section 3.2 de la CPM ;
>
> (g) Que, aux fins du paragraphe (e) ci-dessus, l'inscription à la
> liste de diffusion rpd d'AFRINIC est considérée comme une étape
> vers la participation au PDWG et AFRINIC s'engage à préserver ce
> droit afin qu'aucune personne qui s'est récemment inscrite à la
> liste de diffusion rpd ne soit exclue et/ou "privée" de sa
> participation au processus d'élaboration des politiques.
>
> (h) Par souci de clarté, voici le nombre d'abonnement de janvier
> 2019 au 13 août 2020.
>
> *2019*
>
>
>
> *Nombres*
>
> Janvier
>
>
>
> 3
>
> Février
>
>
>
> 8
>
> Mars
>
>
>
> 3
>
> Avril
>
>
>
> 9
>
> Mai
>
>
>
> 30
>
> Juin
>
>
>
> 53
>
> Juillet
>
>
>
> 8
>
> Août
>
>
>
> 11
>
> Septembre
>
>
>
> 3
>
> Octobre
>
>
>
> 4
>
> Novembre
>
>
>
> 11
>
> December
>
>
>
> 18
>
>
>
>
> *2020*
>
>
>
> Janvier
>
>
>
> 1
>
> Février
>
>
>
> 13
>
> Mars
>
>
>
> 7
>
> Avril
>
>
>
> 2
>
> Mai
>
>
>
> 5
>
> Juin
>
>
>
> 9
>
> Juillet
>
>
>
> 177
>
> Août 13 12:50 UTC
>
>
>
> 27
>
> *Nombre d'abonnements actuels*
>
>
>
> *986*
>
> Sur cette note, AFRINIC encourage le PDWG à accroître son
> engagement dans le processus d'élaboration des politiques à
> travers leur participation active, substantielle et constructive
> dans l'élaboration des politiques de ressources qui contribueront
> à aider AFRINIC dans sa mission de gestion des ressources
> numériques Internet pour la région africaine.
>
> En outre, AFRINIC voudrait saisir cette occasion pour renouveler
> son invitation à la réunion de l'AIS'20 et recommander que la
> communauté suive toutes les procédures mises en place pour leur
> inscription en ligne à cet égard.
>
> Eddy Kayihura
>
> CEO
>
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