[rpd] Policy Compliance Dashboard - AFPUB-2020-GEN-001-DRAFT01

[Paschal Ochang]

Hello Jordi,

 guidelines already exist for compliance by members therefore notifications
or reminders to indicate non compliance for me is not necessary.

Furthermore, this policy might be increasing the hierarchy of the
importance of notifications more than the actual rules being violated. E.g
in my self defence I can say I never got notified that I was breaking any
rule. Ignorance therefore becomes an excuse for violation.

If rules already exists then it's left for members to make sure that their
legal team is abreast with the translation and adherence to such rules.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <
jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:


> Hi Paschal,

>

>

>

> Can you tell me where can any member check if he is complying with its

> actual compliance status for all the policy manual?

>

>

>

> Can you tell me if when there is a lack of compliance, if the member is

> receiving an automated notification or if it will be only known because

> another member realizes it and tell him (or if it is a competitor and want

> to create harm may be claim to the staff), or the staff or something

> similar?

>

>

>

> Those are just simple questions that confirm that this is not actually

> being done, at least not in an automated and as much completed fashion as

> possible.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> El 5/8/20 19:22, "Paschal Ochang" <pascosoft at gmail.com> escribió:

>

>

>

> Dear Jordi,

>

>

>

> I do not agree with this “policy compliance dashboard” proposal on the

> simple fact that it’s just an additional complication to an already working

> system.

>

> All the points mentioned on the proposal are supposed to be taken care of

> by the Afrinic board and are very obvious matters that do not require a

> whole new complicated strategy that won’t bring any additional value.

>

> Clicking on a button to check a list of violations and inconsistencies

> doesn’t automatically mean that something will be done about it.

>

> I don’t think the Afrinic board needs this dashboard to tell them

> something that they already know. It’s really unnecessary and a total waste.

>

>

> On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <

> rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:

>

> Hi Taiwo, all,

>

> The RSA has very generic provisions and it includes the compliance with

> all the policies, not just payments.

>

> However, not all the members are following the updates to the CPM. Many

> members which I talk aren't following the PDP at all. You may understand

> the consequences this have with policy changes and I'm sure that staff is

> not doing a manual verification to all the members with every policy

> change. They can tell us.

>

> This dashboard, will allow the members to automatically know if anything

> they do is following the policies, even if the policies change (once the

> dashboard is updated with a new implemented policy/change) and get a

> notification, so they can correct it.

>

> This dashboard provides a very useful and informative way for ensuring

> that every member is up to date, and if they don't act then it is a systems

> to allow the staff to automatically track lack of compliance, provide

> corrective measures, or even tell the PDWG "this is not working, because

> nobody can comply with that". Those are just examples of how useful an

> automated system can be.

>

> It also protects the members against sudden (without notice) overreactions

> of the staff (which may be totally right, according to the RSA), but we all

> understand that everybody can make a mistake and have a notification

> instead of resources being taken.

>

> I'm sure today the staff have some ways to detect lack of payment, or lack

> of policy compliance, but what we are trying to do here is to automate it

> in a consistent way, so even if there will be, as with many policies, some

> development work, at the end, it is saving expenses to all and making

> everybody more productive.

>

> Look also to the case, for example with a pandemic, or a civil war, or

> whatever, of a country which doesn't allow to make payments to Afrinic even

> to critical infrastructures, like the ccTLD. Following the RSA, those

> resources should be taken, but with this proposal, the staff can notify the

> situation to the Board and the Board could take special measures instead of

> recovering the resources (which right now they are forced to do according

> to the RSA/bylaws). I think we should have a way to accommodate for that.

>

> Last but not least, when resources are recovered (a company goes to

> bankruptcy, or because of lack of payment, or repetitive and persistent

> lack of policy compliance, etc.), we define a way about how we publish and

> incorporate those resources back to the AFRINIC pool.

>

> Regards,

> Jordi

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

> El 5/8/20 18:47, "Taiwo Oyewande" <taiwo.oyewande88 at gmail.com> escribió:

>

>

>     I have read through your “Policy Compliance Dashboard” proposal.

>     I will like to enquire if Afrinic Isn’t already keeping track of the

> members that do not comply with the already existing rules, members that do

> not pay their fees or those that violate the policies in general?

>     It seems that this proposal is just a repetition of what the Afrinic

> board’s job already is.

>

>     Regards

>     Taiwo

>

>     > On 5 Aug 2020, at 11:01, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <

> rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:

>     >

>     > Hi all,

>     >

>     > I will like to know if anyone has any inputs for the proposal

> "Policy Compliance Dashboard" (Draft1) - AFPUB-2020-GEN-001-DRAFT01.

>     >

>     > https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2020-gen-001-d1#proposal

>     >

>     > It will be also good to get at least, a draft impact analysis from

> the staff. Even if it is not a complete/formal one it will be fine, just

> the key points/issues that they want to consider, if any.

>     >

>     > It is not nice to get issues presented the same day that we should

> reach consensus, when we have the opportunity, several weeks ahead, to

> resolve them!

>     >

>     > Those inputs, could be used to improve this version if we get them

> during this week or early next one, so we have an updated version to be

> presented in the on-line PPM.

>     >

>     > So please, provide your comments.

>     >

>     > Tks!

>     >

>     > Regards,

>     > Jordi

>     > @jordipalet

>     >

>     >

>     >

>     >

>     >

>     > **********************************************

>     > IPv4 is over

>     > Are you ready for the new Internet ?

>     > http://www.theipv6company.com

>     > The IPv6 Company

>     >

>     > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged

> or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of

> the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized

> disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this

> information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly

> prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the

> intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or

> use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including

> attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal

> offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this

> communication and delete it.

>     >

>     >

>     >

>     >

>     > _______________________________________________

>     > RPD mailing list

>     > RPD at afrinic.net

>     > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd

>

>

>

> **********************************************

> IPv4 is over

> Are you ready for the new Internet ?

> http://www.theipv6company.com

> The IPv6 Company

>

> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or

> confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of

> the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized

> disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this

> information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly

> prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the

> intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or

> use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including

> attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal

> offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this

> communication and delete it.

>

>

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> RPD mailing list

> RPD at afrinic.net

> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd

>

>

>

> --

> Kind regards,

>

> Paschal.

>

> **********************************************

> IPv4 is over

> Are you ready for the new Internet ?

> http://www.theipv6company.com

> The IPv6 Company

>

> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or

> confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of

> the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized

> disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this

> information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly

> prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the

> intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or

> use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including

> attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal

> offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this

> communication and delete it.

>

>


-- 
Kind regards,

Paschal.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/attachments/20200805/7ab198fc/attachment-0001.html>