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[rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

Anthony Ubah ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com
Sat Jul 18 09:19:24 UTC 2020


+1 Paschal,

To buttress my point. To expedite the delivery process, I agree with you
that pushing for a remote voting system can and should be 100% policy
independent.

Although we can have a remote meeting to discuss agendas, available time
line may not permit a good election now(giving issues with identifying
unique voters, and curbing bogus multiple voting), thus the reason I
subscribed to the idea of tenure extension.


Kind regards,

Ant'


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> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 21:09:53 +0100

> From: Paschal Ochang <pascosoft at gmail.com>

> To: Anthony Ubah <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>

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> Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

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> +1 Tony.

>

> Categorising various participants and members in rpd and mapping them to

> their respective voting privileges will be a good way to start.

>

> I have attended multiple meetings and have networked with people whom have

> never posted on or commented on RPD but have spoken passionately in open

> mic sessions and I was amazed why they have been incognito in mailing

> lists.

>

> I think where we missed it a little bit may be trying to tie the

> development of a remote or electronic voting system together with a

> proposal. I don't think a proposal must first scale through in order to

> spear head the development of a remote or electronic voting system. This

> should be policy independent IMHO.

>

> While we already have limited time we can have a remote meeting and discuss

> everything in the agenda while delaying the election process a little bit

> and thereby extending the tenure of the current seat holders.

>

> Hopefully when we adapt to the new normal and can hold a face to face

> meeting we can hold elections by then and I will get to see and enjoy the

> physical company of our beloved Afrinic community as usual.

>

> On Friday, July 17, 2020, Anthony Ubah <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > Hello Sami Salih

> >

> > 'Mitigating the (sleeper cells) effect' is a tricky venture. Certain

> > members are active, while some are comfortable with just observing in the

> > backgrounds just to be abreast of happenings. The Example of '10 post'

> > filter will disenfranchise these categories of members.

> >

> > I will suggest a process is initiated, which will properly identify and

> > document all unique existing members; active, passive, and new members.

> >

> > I do agree with the idea of developing an in-house voting system for

> these

> > voting processes. However, this will only suffice if the above is dealt

> > with first.

> >

> > The need has arisen for remote-everything, induced in short notice

> > globally due to the Covid-19 situation. Sad to note, the Afrinic

> community

> > is not ripe to migrate all the exercises billed for AIS'20 online,

> > particularly the voting process. This should be held up until further

> > notice.

> >

> >

> > Kind regards,

> >

> > Anthony

> >

> >

> >

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> >> 1. Re: Co-Chair Election Process (JORDI PALET MARTINEZ)

> >> 2. Re: Co-Chair Election Process (Sami Salih)

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> >> Message: 1

> >> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:40:00 +0200

> >> From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>

> >> To: Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com>

> >> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net

> >> Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

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> >>

> >> Yep, in fact looking at the features and the way it works, seems very

> >> very close to what LACNIC is using (I believe the developed in-house,

> but

> >> I?m not sure).

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Jordi

> >>

> >> @jordipalet

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> El 16/7/20 12:35, "Mike Silber" <silber.mike at gmail.com> escribi?:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> This platform has been recommended to me and code is available:

> >> https://heliosvoting.org

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net

> >

> >> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi Eddy, all,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> LACNIC always do this remotely and electronically, using the subscribers

> >> in the RPD mailing list at some point before the process starts (to

> avoid

> >> ?lots of friends? not really ?part of the PDP? to join the day before

> the

> >> voting).

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I will think it is the best choice we have in replacement for a

> >> non-in-person-meeting.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I think they could help in providing the platform or the code or

> >> something similar, in case you don?t have already an existing platform

> to

> >> do that.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Jordi

> >>

> >> @jordipalet

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> El 16/7/20 11:47, "Eddy Kayihura" <eddy at afrinic.net> escribi?:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear PDWG community members

> >>

> >> The Public Policy Meeting will be on the agenda of the Africa Internet

> >> Summit 2020 (AIS-20) inSeptember. One PDWG co-chair?s term (one year)

> will

> >> end during the Public Policy Meeting.

> >>

> >> The election process for the PDWG co-chair (please see

> >> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election for

> >> more details) says that voting shall be by a simple show of hands.

> However,

> >> this Public Policy meeting shall be held online.

> >>

> >> We are therefore requesting feedback from the community on how AFRINIC

> >> can best proceed with the election to fill the vacant seat of one PDP

> >> co-chair. We shall be delighted to receive your proposals for this

> >> important matter and hope we can have a consensus within a week.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Eddy

> >>

> >> -----

> >>

> >> Chers membres de la communaut? du PDWG,

> >>

> >> La r?union de politique publique sera ? l'ordre du jour du Sommet

> >> Africain de l'Internet 2020 (AIS-20) qui se tiendra du 14 au 18

> septembre

> >> 2020. Le mandat d'un des copr?sidents du PDWG (un an) prendra fin

> pendant

> >> la r?union de politique publique.

> >>

> >> Le processus d'?lection du copr?sident du PDWG (voir

> >> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election pour

> >> plus de d?tails) pr?voit que le vote se fera ? main lev?e. Toutefois,

> cette

> >> r?union de politique publique se tiendra en ligne.

> >>

> >> Nous demandons donc ? la communaut? de nous faire part de ses

> >> commentaires sur la meilleure fa?on pour AFRINIC de proc?der ?

> l'?lection

> >> pour pourvoir le si?ge vacant d'un copr?sident du PDP. Nous serons

> ravis de

> >> recevoir vos propositions sur cette importante question et esperons

> avoir

> >> un consensus dans une semaine.

> >>

> >> Cordialement,

> >>

> >> Eddy

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ----

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Eddy Kayihura

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Chief Executive Officer

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> >> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:09:55 +0000

> >> From: Sami Salih <sami.salih at outlook.com>

> >> To: Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com>, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ

> >> <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>

> >> Cc: "rpd at afrinic.net" <rpd at afrinic.net>

> >> Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

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> >>

> >> Salam Eddy, All

> >>

> >> It's clear that we don't have any another choice than relying on the

> rpd,

> >> thus we have to consider the followings:

> >>

> >> 1) Mitigating the (sleeper cells) effect, not all subscribers are real

> >> participants, hence I recommend to apply a light filter such as minimum

> of

> >> 10 posts before today. (just an example)

> >>

> >> 2) I would prefer an in-house develop system to perform as follows:

> >> i- Send eligibility email to those who satisfy the conditions in (1),

> >> with a link to register for voting,

> >> ii- then the voting credentials send only to registered fellows,

> >> iii- after the announced voting period the result published with the

> >> list of votes,

> >> I didn't see any harm if the community see that I voted to someone, even

> >> in show of hands the session record documents who is voting for who.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Sami Salih

> >>

> >> ________________________________

> >> From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>

> >> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 1:40 PM

> >> To: Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com>

> >> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net <rpd at afrinic.net>

> >> Subject: Re: [rpd] Co-Chair Election Process

> >>

> >>

> >> Yep, in fact looking at the features and the way it works, seems very

> >> very close to what LACNIC is using (I believe the developed in-house,

> but

> >> I?m not sure).

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Jordi

> >>

> >> @jordipalet

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> El 16/7/20 12:35, "Mike Silber" <silber.mike at gmail.com<mailto:

> >> silber.mike at gmail.com>> escribi?:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> This platform has been recommended to me and code is available:

> >> https://heliosvoting.org

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> On 16 Jul 2020, at 11:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net

> >> <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi Eddy, all,

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> LACNIC always do this remotely and electronically, using the subscribers

> >> in the RPD mailing list at some point before the process starts (to

> avoid

> >> ?lots of friends? not really ?part of the PDP? to join the day before

> the

> >> voting).

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I will think it is the best choice we have in replacement for a

> >> non-in-person-meeting.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> I think they could help in providing the platform or the code or

> >> something similar, in case you don?t have already an existing platform

> to

> >> do that.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Jordi

> >>

> >> @jordipalet

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> El 16/7/20 11:47, "Eddy Kayihura" <eddy at afrinic.net<mailto:eddy@

> >> afrinic.net>> escribi?:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear PDWG community members

> >>

> >> The Public Policy Meeting will be on the agenda of the Africa Internet

> >> Summit 2020 (AIS-20) inSeptember. One PDWG co-chair?s term (one year)

> will

> >> end during the Public Policy Meeting.

> >>

> >> The election process for the PDWG co-chair (please see

> >> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election for

> >> more details) says that voting shall be by a simple show of hands.

> However,

> >> this Public Policy meeting shall be held online.

> >>

> >> We are therefore requesting feedback from the community on how AFRINIC

> >> can best proceed with the election to fill the vacant seat of one PDP

> >> co-chair. We shall be delighted to receive your proposals for this

> >> important matter and hope we can have a consensus within a week.

> >>

> >> Regards,

> >>

> >> Eddy

> >>

> >> -----

> >>

> >> Chers membres de la communaut? du PDWG,

> >>

> >> La r?union de politique publique sera ? l'ordre du jour du Sommet

> >> Africain de l'Internet 2020 (AIS-20) qui se tiendra du 14 au 18

> septembre

> >> 2020. Le mandat d'un des copr?sidents du PDWG (un an) prendra fin

> pendant

> >> la r?union de politique publique.

> >>

> >> Le processus d'?lection du copr?sident du PDWG (voir

> >> https://www.afrinic.net/policy/development-working-group#election pour

> >> plus de d?tails) pr?voit que le vote se fera ? main lev?e. Toutefois,

> cette

> >> r?union de politique publique se tiendra en ligne.

> >>

> >> Nous demandons donc ? la communaut? de nous faire part de ses

> >> commentaires sur la meilleure fa?on pour AFRINIC de proc?der ?

> l'?lection

> >> pour pourvoir le si?ge vacant d'un copr?sident du PDP. Nous serons

> ravis de

> >> recevoir vos propositions sur cette importante question et esperons

> avoir

> >> un consensus dans une semaine.

> >>

> >> Cordialement,

> >>

> >> Eddy

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> ----

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Eddy Kayihura

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Chief Executive Officer

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> African Network Information Centre (AFRINIC)

> >>

> >>

> >>

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